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Hi all! I picked this small, possibly well used, Indian style sword at a reasonable price. I am looking for some honest feedback. I have some ideas about it, but I do not want to influence the discussion at this juncture. I have cleaned it with Balisol and a sponge and I am trying to decide if I should proceed with a polish and an etch eventually. I am a bit backlogged on restoration projects currently.
The sword's overall length of 32", 81cm. The blade is 28", 71cm tip to hilt. The edge measures 29 1/4", 74.2cm. Wedge shaped blade without the steep Indian edge grind. There are remnants of what appears to be a non-widening, unsharpened, lenticular shaped yelman of 6 1/4", 16 cm. |
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Here is a thirteenth picture.
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Bump. Almost 1000 views and no ideas? I promise feedback won't hurt my feelings.
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Its always incredible to see things like this posted, with tons of trolling but no entries. With Indian swords, most are either intimidated by them as they are a bit esoteric, or simply not interested (begs the question, then why read the post?). Pretty much standard forum mystery
![]() This seems a pretty standard tulwar, probably Rajput, typical 19th c. but the blade is bit more curved than usual, not really a shamshir (note the 'Indian ricasso' ). I personally really like these rougher examples, fighting sabers. The Sikhs and and Rajputs were the most formidable warriors of all, and this deep curve lent well to the draw cut, meant business. What are your ideas, lets compare notes, Best Jim |
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Thanks Jim for getting the replies started on this one. The blade does look typical NW India with a deep "bite" out of the edge just in front of the ricasso.
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Let's start with the ricasso. It is sharp not blunt. The rest of the blade is pretty blunt. I think this blade has a fair bit of corrosion and got a quick clean and etch, to tart it up for sale. I think if it is a fighting blade the ricasso may be from repeated sharpening that started above the langets. That was one of the issues I hoped people would key in on. The cross section is almost lenticular shaped with a high point towards the back of the blade that portion being about 1/3 of the blade. Like a vestigial central ridge. This slopes towards the edge for 2/3 of the blade like a gradual convex wedge. There is no hint of the second steep flat grind to the edge seen on many Indian blades. The second is the abrupt change in the etched pattern on both sides of the blade in the forte. This triggered several theories. 1) A repair. 2) It was hung at an angle not completely submerged in the etching solution. 3) a change in metal at the forte from the original manufacturing process. These are some of the ideas I have been working through each with its own spider web process. I thought I would stop before I got too far out on a limb. Thanks IP |
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IP, your blade looks as though it has literally been through the wars. There is certainly evidence of repeated sharpening and likely damage repairs. Given its fighting heritage, I would give it a good clean when you have the time and etch it to better show some of the areas that appear damaged. You may get a clearer idea of what this old blade went through in its fighting career. Personally, I like exploring old warriors.
Regards, Ian |
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