Battle axe

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 09:13 AM

Dear colleagues,
I would be very grateful for the help in identification of this battle ax found in the European part of Russia, near this place:

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 09:14 AM

here is the axe

fernando · 30th March 2012, 04:48 PM

Too much inside Russia to be Scandinavian ?

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Too much inside Russia to be Scandinavian ?

Fernando, do you think this axe has Scandinavian origin?

fernando · 30th March 2012, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evgeny_K

Fernando, do you think this axe has Scandinavian origin?

Well, it just came to my kind; but i know nothing about these things.
But we certainly have members who can give a serious opinion on this axe

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

Well, it just came to my kind; but i know nothing about these things.
But we certainly have members who can give a serious opinion on this axe

well, will be waiting for their appearance

fernando · 30th March 2012, 06:08 PM

However looking at the opposite side of the blade, with that "hammer" head, i would ask: why do you consider this a battle axe ?

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

However looking at the opposite side of the blade, with that "hammer" head, i would ask: why do you consider this a battle axe ?

I think it's too ornated to be used in household.

Sagaris has a hammer shaped edge - it's normal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagaris

Atlantia · 30th March 2012, 08:05 PM

Evgeny

Always a pleasure to talk to a fellow Eugene

These small axes are difficult to pinpoint.
Sizes and weight might help to identify it.
Have a look at this thread, it might give you some ideas:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13791

Regards
Gene

Matchlock · 30th March 2012, 08:11 PM

Judging by both its general Late Gothic formal criteria and the roped frieze decoration, I would date this axe head between ca. 1500 and the mid-16th century.

Best,
Michael

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlantia

Evgeny

Always a pleasure to talk to a fellow Eugene

These small axes are difficult to pinpoint.
Sizes and weight might help to identify it.
Have a look at this thread, it might give you some ideas:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13791

Regards
Gene

Me too

here are dimensions of the axe:

lenght - 175 mm
width - 135 mm

Evgeny_K · 30th March 2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

Judging by both its general Late Gothic formal criteria and the roped frieze decoration, I would date this axe head between ca. 1500 and the mid-16th century.

Best,
Michael

Thank you, Michael!

junker · 6th April 2012, 07:35 PM

Hi Evgeny,

i might be a russian item, because it was found there also.
Here is a photo out o the book:
"russian arm and armour"
This axe is called a parade hatchet from 17 century.
Hope this helps a bit.

Dirk

Matchlock · 6th April 2012, 08:23 PM

Hi Dirk,

This is a ceremonial axe, which explains for its 17th c. assignation.

The basic Late-Gothic stylistic criteria are as I stated.

Best,
Michael

Evgeny_K · 7th April 2012, 11:31 PM

Dirk, Michael
Thank you!

Could it be a Polish axe, what do you think?

Matchlock · 8th April 2012, 05:05 PM

A Polish origin is imaginable, Evgeny,

Eastern European in any case.

Best,
Michael

30th March 2012, 09:13 AM	#1
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 208	Battle axe Dear colleagues, I would be very grateful for the help in identification of this battle ax found in the European part of Russia, near this place: Attached Images

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Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 208	here is the axe Attached Images

6th April 2012, 07:35 PM	#13
junker Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 140	russian Hi Evgeny, i might be a russian item, because it was found there also. Here is a photo out o the book: "russian arm and armour" This axe is called a parade hatchet from 17 century. Hope this helps a bit. Dirk Attached Images

30th March 2012, 04:48 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Too much inside Russia to be Scandinavian ?

30th March 2012, 06:08 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	However looking at the opposite side of the blade, with that "hammer" head, i would ask: why do you consider this a battle axe ?

30th March 2012, 08:05 PM	#9
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Evgeny Always a pleasure to talk to a fellow Eugene These small axes are difficult to pinpoint. Sizes and weight might help to identify it. Have a look at this thread, it might give you some ideas: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13791 Regards Gene

30th March 2012, 08:11 PM	#10
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Judging by both its general Late Gothic formal criteria and the roped frieze decoration, I would date this axe head between ca. 1500 and the mid-16th century. Best, Michael

6th April 2012, 08:23 PM	#14
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Dirk, This is a ceremonial axe, which explains for its 17th c. assignation. The basic Late-Gothic stylistic criteria are as I stated. Best, Michael

7th April 2012, 11:31 PM	#15
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 208	Dirk, Michael Thank you! Could it be a Polish axe, what do you think?

8th April 2012, 05:05 PM	#16
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Polish origin is imaginable, Evgeny, Eastern European in any case. Best, Michael