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Hello guys...its great that i am able to post this thread..been waiting a long time..i will posting quite a number of pics of the keris in posession right now. And last, i know nuts about keris. Please do look, appraise and advise. Thanks in Advance.
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Hi Isumairuchiru, welcome to the forum. I am afraid we do not do monetary appraisals of this forum. I suggest you have a good look at the rules of conduct posted in the main forum and the special Keris Forum rules posted in this one to be sure you fully understand how we operate.
That said i'm afraid i don't have much good news for you about your keris. The sheath is from the Bali/Lombok region. Though possibly restorable, it is in rather poor condition and was never high quality to begin with so i'm not sure it is worth putting the time and effort into it. You've presented a number of close-ups of the "stones" so i hope it doesn't disappoint you that these are fairly valueless pastes. The fit of the blade into the sheath looks very loose so i would think this is a marriage of the blade to this pre-existing sheath. The blade is also rather low quality, perhaps more so than the sheath. It may also be from Bali/Lombak, but it does not have any of the distinct characteristics i expect from a keris of that region so i can't be sure. The hilt has no business being on this or any keris, as it is not a keris hilt at all. I have seen the form before, but i would have to do a little research to tell you exactly what kind of blade it belongs on. So, it appears to me that you have an "ensemble" made up of unrelated parts put together by someone trying to find a way to clear them out of their shop. Probably not what you hoped to hear, i'm afraid. Don't be discouraged by this, as i believe many of this have less than brilliant stories to relate about acquiring our first keris. ![]() |
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Hi David, thanks for the comment and i am sorry mayb i used the wrong word...it should nt be appraise but idetify the keris whereby i have no idea. I hope u understand as i am not selling or other thing. Anyway thanks for great advice. I learned new things.
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No worries. And if you have been bitten by the bug you will no doubt come across other and better keris in your searches. If you dig into our archives a bit i think you will learn much more. We have quite a few well informed contributors here.
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David how you define quality made or material? As i am abit of struggling understanding the blade itself.
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![]() Frankly, the carving and shaping of the keris you have presented is rather crude and unskilled. This will become immediately evident once you put it side-by-side with even a medium quality example. |
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This type of kris with a sheath crosspiece in Balinese kekandikan style and brass pendok decorated with glass stones has been attributed to Bima (East Sumbawa) by some authors such as the late Martin Kerner. Some pieces have better blades than this one.....
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This sort of keris was also put together during the 1960's through to late 1980's by people in Jogja. They were then sold in Bali and Jakarta, and undoubtedly a lot of other places.
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Well this is getting interesting.
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Yes David, chalk and cheese, but I think what Jean is trying to demonstrate is that on his the scabbard was definitely made in Jogja, not only is the embossing very probably Jogja, but they've even used a Jogja motif.
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This pic attchment. Is there any connection to the one Jean post or same originate.
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I attach the pics of 2 krisses identified as krisses Bima, and I hope that the new owners will not object to share them...
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Jean ...thanks for thae picture. I never thought it would exist since i have search up and down to locate similarity of my keris...you have done a wonderful research. I believe not many ppl have seen this kind of dress.
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There is one kris very similar to yours but fitted with a proper "Bima" hilt for sale on a Dutch site. Best regards Last edited by David; 29th May 2014 at 09:54 PM. Reason: Sorry Jean, but you cannot direct folks to a auction site from here. |
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Hi Jean thanks for the info, but like David said there are few similar design. This wrangka is called Kapakan mean axe in indonesia and malay. Gave some ideas how to restore my keris. Anyway how do you differentiate between malay blade, bugis blades and javanese blades?
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