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Old 7th August 2012, 06:08 PM   #1
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Default Wheellock pistols (17th century)

Hello,

Any information on this pair of wheellock pistols (German mid-17th ?) ?

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Old 8th August 2012, 02:22 AM   #2
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Any information on this pair of wheellock pistols (German mid-17th ?)
Hi JM ...
could looks like, wheel-lock pistol made in Germany (Augsburg? Nuremberg? Brunswick?)
mid 16th century (1550/60)

really beautiful, if it's yours, sincerest congratulations

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Old 8th August 2012, 07:36 AM   #3
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Thanks Dom. Unfortunately, they are not mine !
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Old 29th August 2012, 07:49 PM   #4
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Default Well made replicas !

Hello,

When in hands, it finally appears that this is a pair of outstanding wheellock pistol replicas (possibly made in turkey or afghanistan ?) !!!
Be careful as the quality is overall impressive except metal parts that were acid treated (and of lesser quality) and helped to spot the fakes ....
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Old 30th August 2012, 12:00 AM   #5
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Aïe, aïe Jean-Marc
it starts to become really a poison, all these copies ... without mention that it's just replicas
not only "Turkey or Afghanistan" (in Turkey, manpower too much expensive),
but "China, Pakistan, India,
in India I know one, but honest, he sells his replicas, as replicas ... i.e.; Islamic Astrolabes, for instance
they have very skilled workers able to made a perfect copy as far as they have a model
and then, the problems are;
- sometimes, the materials used are of lower quality, that to increase the margin profit
- they privilege industrial technology instead of manual fabrications, for the same reasons

conclusions; from far ... it's looks antic, but when they arrive home, it's a complete disillusion

since two or three years, I'm confused with "Islamic talismanic bowls", replicas from Indian continent,
sold as originals, but I found a way to differentiate with a probability of 90%
but it's still annoying

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Old 30th August 2012, 02:41 PM   #6
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Hi Jean-Marc,

It is only now that I noticed your thread.

This is a characteristic pair of Historismus decorative pistols (Victorian copies) which clearly show a crude mix of different styles, based on ca. 1630's plain and undecorated horseman's pistols (form of the locks, barrels and stocks) combined with 'puffer style' ball butts that would be typical of the 1570's.
The stock inlay is mere fantasy and the barrel marks and decoration revoke 18th and 19th c. East European paragons.
I am convinced that none of the parts is original and that the inside mechanism, especially the quality of the springs, is of decorative nature only.

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