Bagobo Twist Core Bolo with New Scabbard

Battara · 5th December 2009, 02:18 AM

HI Kids. Below are pictures of my Bagobo with a double twist core blade. I later changed the chains on it. The scabbard is an old one that I obtained from Spunger. The cloth and tacks are original. I added the brass coils on the finials and replaced some of the missing brass links. It fits perfectly to the bolo. Again, maraming salamat Ron.

Enjoy.

Robert · 5th December 2009, 05:31 AM

Hello Jose,
As always you've done a beautiful restoration on the scabbard. This is a great match-up even though as you say it is not original to the blade. Could you please post a close-up of the hit as I would very much like to see the detailing of the guard casting. Thank you very much for sharing.

Robert

Flavio · 5th December 2009, 01:06 PM

Hi Jose, wonderful sword and perfect marriage

!!! As usual your restorations are great!! Congrats

Flavio

Sajen · 5th December 2009, 02:04 PM

Beautiful sword and perfect restoration, thank's for sharing.

Battara · 5th December 2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hello Jose,
As always you've done a beautiful restoration on the scabbard. This is a great match-up even though as you say it is not original to the blade. Could you please post a close-up of the hit as I would very much like to see the detailing of the guard casting. Thank you very much for sharing.

Robert

Thank you folks!

As per your request Robert, here is a close up of the hilt:

kisak · 5th December 2009, 11:42 PM

Would the colour difference between the edge region and the rest of the blade be due to differential heat treating?

Robert · 6th December 2009, 12:46 AM

Hello Jose and thank you for posting the picture of the hilt, it is an absolute beauty. I do not remember if I have ever ask before but are these done by the lost wax method or some other way and is the material used on this brass, bronze or something else? Again, thanks for sharing.

Robert

Battara · 6th December 2009, 02:59 AM

Yes Kisak, the color difference is in fact due to tempering.

Robert, they used a lost wax method and then stamped with tools.

Dimasalang · 6th December 2009, 03:58 AM

Wow!

That is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

Gavin Nugent · 6th December 2009, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimasalang

Wow!

That is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

I agree, you have done a fantastic job and the blade is something else. A wonderful example

Best

Gav

Ferguson · 6th December 2009, 11:33 AM

Jose,
Everything about that piece is top notch, and just stunning. Great piece to work with, and excellent restoration!
Steve

G. McCormack · 6th December 2009, 08:51 PM

Wow! Gorgeous piece! I'm sure fitting that brass guard piece to the burled wood hilt would have been a bear!
Small correction:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Yes Kisak, the color difference is in fact due to tempering.

Robert, they used a lost wax method and then stamped with tools.

Color difference is due etch which reveals evidence of the microstructure which results from carbon content and cooling gradient upon quenching as a result of differences in cross sectional thickness.

Scabbard looks great too!

mross · 7th December 2009, 04:52 PM

Jose,
I liked this piece when you posted it for me on the other thread. I have to say it changed my opinion of Bagabo workmanship, up until this piece their craft seemed crude in comparisome to other tribes. But this piece wow.

migueldiaz · 8th December 2009, 01:45 AM

battara, what can i say that has not already been said? nice puppy all right!

Battara · 14th December 2009, 11:34 PM

Got a question: would the blade structure be considered "turkish ribbon?"

Battara · 16th December 2009, 12:51 AM

Just found out that according to Rsword turkish ribbon is the same as twist core.

hideyoshi · 16th December 2009, 06:26 PM

Nice Kampilan.

Battara · 16th December 2009, 07:08 PM

Nice panabas - I love twist core!

FilAmfighter1 · 22nd December 2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hideyoshi

Nice Kampilan.

I saw the holes in the blade and this blade was a fighting blade. Each hole filled with brass indicated a kill in battle. There is great reference in the Pirate Wind on this noted by the English fighting fighting Raiders in the Philippine Sea.

P.Abrera · 23rd December 2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Got a question: would the blade structure be considered "turkish ribbon?"

The only difference in specific terms might be that a twist core has edge material (not neccesarily twisted) surrounding the,er, twisted core. In my understanding, the "turkish ribbon" part is the multiple rods of twisted material welded together to form a larger whole.

What's in a name...Construction and manufacture techniques would be pretty much the same thing.

Beautiful weapon!

Battara · 16th February 2011, 04:58 PM

Well I finally finished unwrapping the cloth material and found a strap. I then restored the missing horse hair. Here is the picture of the finished work with a picture from Cole's The Wild Tribes of Davao District Mindanao for comparison.

Enjoy

Robert · 16th February 2011, 05:13 PM

WOW !!!

Now that is something spectacular !!! Great work Jose.

Sajen · 16th February 2011, 08:17 PM

Just beautiful, great job!

DaveS · 16th February 2011, 08:55 PM

Jose: Fantastic restoration!!!!!!!!!! I sure know where to go for scabbard
repair.........Dave.

Atlantia · 16th February 2011, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Just found out that according to Rsword turkish ribbon is the same as twist core.

I think that your sword looks fantastic. Great job

Also, on the subject of twistcores. I think the pattern you have (which has been used worldwide) can also be called Turkish Twist, Turkish starry night, Star pattern etc.
I think it depends on how well defined the 'stars' are, and I think of ribbon as being more....... 'loose'?
I wonder what the Celts or the Vikings called star pattern?

Dimasalang · 16th February 2011, 09:46 PM

Sweet!

How much?!

Battara · 16th February 2011, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimasalang

Sweet!

How much?!

Thank you folks! Been in process for a while. Thought I would post for archival purposes (as opposed to porpoises

).

Dimasalang - what do you mean?

5th December 2009, 02:18 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Bagobo Twist Core Bolo with New Scabbard HI Kids. Below are pictures of my Bagobo with a double twist core blade. I later changed the chains on it. The scabbard is an old one that I obtained from Spunger. The cloth and tacks are original. I added the brass coils on the finials and replaced some of the missing brass links. It fits perfectly to the bolo. Again, maraming salamat Ron. Enjoy. Attached Images

14th December 2009, 11:34 PM	#15
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Got a question: would the blade structure be considered "turkish ribbon?" Attached Images

16th December 2009, 06:26 PM	#17
hideyoshi Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 58	Nice Kampilan. Attached Images

16th February 2011, 04:58 PM	#21
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Well I finally finished unwrapping the cloth material and found a strap. I then restored the missing horse hair. Here is the picture of the finished work with a picture from Cole's The Wild Tribes of Davao District Mindanao for comparison. Enjoy Attached Images

5th December 2009, 05:31 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Jose, As always you've done a beautiful restoration on the scabbard. This is a great match-up even though as you say it is not original to the blade. Could you please post a close-up of the hit as I would very much like to see the detailing of the guard casting. Thank you very much for sharing. Robert

5th December 2009, 01:06 PM	#3
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi Jose, wonderful sword and perfect marriage !!! As usual your restorations are great!! Congrats Flavio

5th December 2009, 02:04 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Beautiful sword and perfect restoration, thank's for sharing.

5th December 2009, 11:42 PM	#6
kisak Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 182	Would the colour difference between the edge region and the rest of the blade be due to differential heat treating?

6th December 2009, 12:46 AM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Jose and thank you for posting the picture of the hilt, it is an absolute beauty. I do not remember if I have ever ask before but are these done by the lost wax method or some other way and is the material used on this brass, bronze or something else? Again, thanks for sharing. Robert

6th December 2009, 02:59 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Yes Kisak, the color difference is in fact due to tempering. Robert, they used a lost wax method and then stamped with tools.

6th December 2009, 03:58 AM	#9
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Wow! That is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

6th December 2009, 11:33 AM	#11
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Jose, Everything about that piece is top notch, and just stunning. Great piece to work with, and excellent restoration! Steve

7th December 2009, 04:52 PM	#13
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Jose, I liked this piece when you posted it for me on the other thread. I have to say it changed my opinion of Bagabo workmanship, up until this piece their craft seemed crude in comparisome to other tribes. But this piece wow.

8th December 2009, 01:45 AM	#14
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	battara, what can i say that has not already been said? nice puppy all right!

16th December 2009, 12:51 AM	#16
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Just found out that according to Rsword turkish ribbon is the same as twist core.

16th December 2009, 07:08 PM	#18
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Nice panabas - I love twist core!

16th February 2011, 05:13 PM	#22
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	WOW !!! Now that is something spectacular !!! Great work Jose.

16th February 2011, 08:17 PM	#23
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Just beautiful, great job!

16th February 2011, 08:55 PM	#24
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Jose: Fantastic restoration!!!!!!!!!! I sure know where to go for scabbard repair.........Dave.

16th February 2011, 09:46 PM	#26
Dimasalang Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 264	Sweet! How much?!