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2nd March 2024, 09:26 AM | #1 |
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Material used for decoration, could it be mamas?
I was debating this with a friend about these decoration I have on a modern Bugis keris.
I recently visited a Dutch dealer who just got a shipment with at least a dozen of Bugis krises showing material with looked pretty much the same. Now , I always thought it was embossed on a sheet of aluminum but both my friend and the dealer told me it was Mamas, although Mamas often shows a " golden" sheen . Sorry about the quality of the images they are a cropped image |
2nd March 2024, 11:48 AM | #2 |
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Impossible to know what it is from a photo.
However, to the best of my knowledge, mamas has not been used in Jawa since the 1930's and I have only seen mamas used in Jawa. |
2nd March 2024, 01:01 PM | #3 |
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I agree with Ian, I have seen mamas only by Javanese and Lombok items, never by Bugis blades. I guess that it could be a modern nickel alloy but like Ian stated it's impossible to judge from pictures.
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2nd March 2024, 01:22 PM | #4 |
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thanks, I don't think this is nickel or an alloy with nickel because they are generally very hard and brittle and wouldn't take gently the embossing or perhaps better called chasing .
This has to be a soft material anyway. |
2nd March 2024, 01:37 PM | #5 |
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2nd March 2024, 04:41 PM | #6 |
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I have obviously seen mamas and have quite few examples in my collection, but is there a strict and exacting make-up to this alloy, or does the formula vary somewhat?
Milandro, i don't recall mamas necessarily always having a golden sheen. |
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