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29th January 2012, 03:57 PM | #1 |
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Translation request Katar
Hi all, it's been a while...
A translation would be greath. If better pictures are needed let me know. The katar is 41 cm long. Some remains of silver/gold decoration? Is there something to say about the age? Greets |
30th January 2012, 04:03 AM | #2 |
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Hello,
Could you turn the pictures 180 degrees? The writing is Devanagari and it is upside down. The second character from the left in your pictures is the number 4. I can't transliterate the rest yet, working on it Regards, Emanuel |
30th January 2012, 04:55 AM | #3 |
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Hi,
It reads Ra Ki Sa 45. Looks like an armory inventory number. Could you turn the snap 180D that will help us get a better look. Thanks, Bhushan |
30th January 2012, 09:02 AM | #4 |
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Hi,
Here it is, had no idee, thanks. Greets |
30th January 2012, 09:56 AM | #5 |
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Hi Congoblades,
The writing, or should I rather say the etching, is the armoury mark from Kishangarh. The quality of there etchings is not made very nicely, I have only once seen it made nicely, on a tulwar I have. There it is made very precisely and deep. That a weapon is marked in this way, does not mean that it is from Kishangarh, but on the other hand it could be. Another thing is, that there seems to be some doubt about, if all the weapons were marked, and if this is the case - why not? The time when there marking were made is also an open question. A lot of questions for hours of research . Make a search for ‘Kishangarh’ on the forum, and you will get three threads about this kind of marking. |
30th January 2012, 04:29 PM | #6 |
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Armory Mark
Here is another Kishangarh marking on a well used Kard.
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30th January 2012, 04:55 PM | #7 |
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Hi Steve,
It is interesting to see the inscription of your kard. To see these armoury markings stamped/chiselled into the blade is new to me, as the marking I have seen have been etched. It has been done in a way, which to me is strange, as wax is applied, not nicely, just put onto the blade, what is around the letters and numbers removed, and the blade etched. It would have been easier/faster to write the letters and numbers into the wax, and then etch - to my opinion it would have looked nicer. Does any other members have weapons marked with the Kishangarh armoury marking? |
30th January 2012, 05:13 PM | #8 |
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Thanks a lot for the info,
Greets |
31st January 2012, 06:09 AM | #9 |
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Hello,
Bhushan, I notice that on the kattar with the etched inscription the Ki has the long form "ee" after the "K" whereas the kard with the chiselled inscription has the short form "i" before the "K". Any reason for this? Could it be due to poor literacy on the part of the scribe? Emanuel |
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