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India is an ancient civilization.
Its weapons are so exquisite and incredible. I am a Chinese I noticed that the Chinese weapons in this museum are more common. Some frustration ![]() |
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Benny, have a look at page 139 in the catalogue. I know of only four daggers with a blade like this, and decorated in the same way.
The decotartion on the blades are a bit different, but they must be from the same place - likely even the same work shop. One is in this catalogue. one is in the MET (go to their homepage and make a search for no 30.120.162), one is in a museum in Bejing (see attached) and one is in my collection. |
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Date:late 17th–early 18th century Geography:India Culture:Islamic Medium:Hilt: Jade; carved Blade: steel; damascened Dimensions:L. 18-1/8 in. Classification:Arms and Armor Credit Line:The Sylmaris Collection, Gift of George Coe Graves, 1930 Accession Number:30.120.162 |
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Yes, I have seen similar things in the the Imperial Palace Museum. According to the introduction, he was given in the Qing Dynasty by other countries as a gift to the Emperor |
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This is the Qian Long emperor made dozens of DAO in a
Called the "proton" production process is the integration of many India, Persian style In 2012, the auction price in China was $7500000 |
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I guess the difference between the "known" Indian and Chinese weapons may be explainable by historical circumstances. In 19-20 centuries China had several civil wars with wholesome destruction of cultural heritage, from Taiping rebellion to Cultural Revolution and everything in between, whereas India was relatively peaceful and maintained Royal dynasties with their properties and armouries. Also, religious and cultural pluralism in India was much more conducive to the flourishing variety of "ethnic" weapons , with Hindu and Muslim major branches and "boutique" subsets, such as Coorg, Nepalese, Mysore, NW Frontier etc . And, lastly, weapons in India had sacred overtones and were treated as such, with infinite variety in form, religious symbolism in decoration and lavish adornments. In China weapons were viewed as utilitarian instruments and ( with the rare exceptions of Royal examples) were limited to several simple patterns of purely practical features. This does not make Chinese weapons less historically important or interesting, but simply more austere. Da Dao or the so called River Pirates examples are esthetically plain ugly, but did their military job admirably well. |
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like all cultures, there are class levels and within China there were certainly, and are, many many fine examples or weapons types that go beyond this classification you make. Weapons are certainly NOT only viewed as utilitarian instruments, they move well beyond this culturally. Gavin |
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Thank you guys for sharing these photos!
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Yes, but the earliest British invasion of China was during the Taiping war, in the 19th century.
Chinese ornaments and jade handles are also known to be found on Indian weapons. It was a two way street, but the main currents were very different. |
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Eric/estcrh,
The Indians were trading with the Chinese long before the English knew how to reach India. |
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Perhaps, as an example of "six degrees of separation", the dragon motive moved through Timurids(?) to Persia and India?
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