ID on dagger ?

[chregu]

so once again, to refresh this topic!
I found the note on the internet, knife from Burma.
website of a dealer who sells a similar piece.

[Richard G]

Thank you Chregu,
Assuming it is not against the rules could you please post directions to the website, so we can check the reference. I'm not saying the dealer is wrong, but there have been so many disparate suggestions as to the origin of these knives I'd like to know why he says it is Burmese.
Best wishes
Richard

[Gavin Nugent]

References certainly would add weight to any webpage description...even Bonhams has had these listed as African in the past....but without references....

[David R]

Looking at the knife in question, the plain side does not look "unworked" to me, it looks delaminated. In other words damage, perhaps from rust, perhaps acid used to clean it in the past, perhaps poor welds/slag inclusions etc, failing.

[chregu]

can not find the page!
But I did not say that it definitely is Burma, there was no proof!
for me it is only a hint to look in that direction!
I've said in the beginning, the resemblance to a Dha is big.
greeting Chregu

[colin henshaw]

I've seen this type of knife a few times over the years. The construction of the knife itself, and of the sheath, also the decoration, make me clearly feel they are from the northern part of the Indian sub-continent.

[Richard G]

Thank you Chegru, I understand. I can see a resemblance to a dha of Henrik's knife, but I'm not sure about mine. But I agree, it is worth investigating.

David R. The blade on my knife, and I think Henrik's, is not so much "unworked" as poorly finished, still showing file marks, and yes the steeel is of poor quality, showing signs of incipient lamination etc.

Colin. I have recently seen a bronze bowl with this dot and circle decoration and with an inscription in what I think is devanagari. I thought this was probably Nepali. Is this what you had in mind when you said "north indian"?
But then I suppose it could have been a Burmese bowl.

Regards
Richard

[Richard G]

Look at the first couple of knives in the "Knives and daggers - African" section of this website.
These knives are described as "North African."
However, the descriptions on this site do seem to be a bit general and I 'm not sure all are correct.
Regards
Richard

[hbhansen]

Funny
In the search for reference on an other knife I found two that is most likely from the same area as this one....

http://akaalarms.com/sold-huge-ivory...tan-ref-10162/

http://www.google.dk/imgres?sa=X&hl=...:0&tx=88&ty=94

Especially the last one, with the circles on the back of the hilt and at the end.

Both dealers claims that these are from North West India or Afghanistan....

[Richard G]

Sometimes I think these references or attributions go round in circles, and, forgive me if I offend the dealers in the forum, but they do need an attribution. It must be a lot harder to sell on the basis of "I don't know".
So far the only positive claim I know of to have seen these in situ is "Blacksmith" in this thread.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=maure

Originally Posted by Blacksmith

My guess is that these are from Tibet. I saw the same type of knives on the border area between Nepal and Tibet when I was trawelling there on 2007.
Regards, Timo

Regards
Richard

[Gavin Nugent]

oops