Museums in the Munich and Frankfurt Area - Page 3

TVV · 25th December 2023, 07:44 PM

Considering that this is really a private collection, all assembled in recent times, the scope is quite impressive.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 07:47 PM

It is a testament to what is possible through a combination of passion and sufficient financial resources.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 07:50 PM

I am not aware if anyone has gone through the effort of cataloguing and publishing the collection. If not, hopefully someone eventually does.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 07:54 PM

There are, as has been noted in the past, some items in the collection that are of dubious origins. A careful study by the right experts should be able to separate the genuine ones from the fakes.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 07:58 PM

To be fair, most of us have probably acquired some fakes inadvertently as part of the learning process in collecting. If we could collect on the scale Baumann did, we would probably end up with a good number of questionable items as well.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:01 PM

My favorite questionable item in the whole collection is the sword with the fantasy silver hilt, pattern welded blade and Omani scabbard.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:05 PM

Someone went as far as to add an inscription in gold on one side, and an Alexandria arsenal dedication on the other side. Then the whole thing was assigned to Eastern Europe, and one actually has to admire the imagination of whoever produced this sword.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:09 PM

Recent examination revealed some fakes in the Wallace collection, so nobody is immune and a fantasy sword by itself is not the end of the world. The problem is that it puts into question all the medieval swords and one cannot help but wonder what parts of them are genuine and what may have been recently added to enhance value, such as symbols and inscriptions on the blades.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:12 PM

We are now almost through with the first hall.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:15 PM

After some early and important firearms, there is a little hallway dedicated to the 30-year war.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:17 PM

The hallway takes us to a small room, full of archaeological finds of weapons dating from the Dark Ages...

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:20 PM

...all the way through antiquity to the stone age.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:24 PM

And just when I thought this was it, it turned out there is another large hall full of nice hunting weapons, which seems to be the norm for every German museum.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:28 PM

The quality was just as impressive as the quantity.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:30 PM

The highlight is a mameluke sword that belonged to Jerome Bonaparte, and a hunting sword that was Marie Antoinette's.

TVV · 25th December 2023, 08:32 PM

This is where the tour and the journey ends. Hope you enjoyed the pictures, even if some of the items in the Baumann collection are dubious.

werecow · 26th December 2023, 03:54 PM

Crazy that this is a private collection. I can barely imagine ever owning even one of these medieval swords or renaissance rapiers in my life. Barely... but I can try!

corrado26 · 27th December 2023, 07:13 PM

I know this museum's collection rather well and I think that a good part of it belongs to a well known dealer of southern Germany!

25th December 2023, 07:44 PM	#61
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	Considering that this is really a private collection, all assembled in recent times, the scope is quite impressive. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 07:47 PM	#62
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	It is a testament to what is possible through a combination of passion and sufficient financial resources. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 07:50 PM	#63
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	I am not aware if anyone has gone through the effort of cataloguing and publishing the collection. If not, hopefully someone eventually does. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 07:54 PM	#64
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	There are, as has been noted in the past, some items in the collection that are of dubious origins. A careful study by the right experts should be able to separate the genuine ones from the fakes. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 07:58 PM	#65
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	To be fair, most of us have probably acquired some fakes inadvertently as part of the learning process in collecting. If we could collect on the scale Baumann did, we would probably end up with a good number of questionable items as well. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:01 PM	#66
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	My favorite questionable item in the whole collection is the sword with the fantasy silver hilt, pattern welded blade and Omani scabbard. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:05 PM	#67
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	Someone went as far as to add an inscription in gold on one side, and an Alexandria arsenal dedication on the other side. Then the whole thing was assigned to Eastern Europe, and one actually has to admire the imagination of whoever produced this sword. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:09 PM	#68
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	Recent examination revealed some fakes in the Wallace collection, so nobody is immune and a fantasy sword by itself is not the end of the world. The problem is that it puts into question all the medieval swords and one cannot help but wonder what parts of them are genuine and what may have been recently added to enhance value, such as symbols and inscriptions on the blades. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:12 PM	#69
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	We are now almost through with the first hall. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:15 PM	#70
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	After some early and important firearms, there is a little hallway dedicated to the 30-year war. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:17 PM	#71
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	The hallway takes us to a small room, full of archaeological finds of weapons dating from the Dark Ages... Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:20 PM	#72
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	...all the way through antiquity to the stone age. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:24 PM	#73
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	And just when I thought this was it, it turned out there is another large hall full of nice hunting weapons, which seems to be the norm for every German museum. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:28 PM	#74
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	The quality was just as impressive as the quantity. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:30 PM	#75
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	The highlight is a mameluke sword that belonged to Jerome Bonaparte, and a hunting sword that was Marie Antoinette's. Attached Images

25th December 2023, 08:32 PM	#76
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	This is where the tour and the journey ends. Hope you enjoyed the pictures, even if some of the items in the Baumann collection are dubious. Attached Images

26th December 2023, 03:54 PM	#77
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 500	Crazy that this is a private collection. I can barely imagine ever owning even one of these medieval swords or renaissance rapiers in my life. Barely... but I can try!

27th December 2023, 07:13 PM	#78
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	I know this museum's collection rather well and I think that a good part of it belongs to a well known dealer of southern Germany!