RAKSASA & Buta Bajang Figure Hilts - Page 2

ganjawulung · 10th July 2009, 02:57 AM

Dear Sajen,
The one with Garuda Mungkur, of course. Not the craftmanship, but the originality. To see original old motifs, for me is more important than just seeing good craftmanship..

GANJAWULUNG

David · 10th July 2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Dear Sajen,
The one with Garuda Mungkur, of course. Not the craftmanship, but the originality. To see original old motifs, for me is more important than just seeing good craftmanship..

Ganja, ion post #28 Sajen posted 2 different hilts. I believe that they both have a Garuda Mungkur.

David · 10th July 2009, 03:31 AM

Well i finally had some time to photograph my few examples. Meet the twins. These two guys are so alike i think the same carver may have done them. One is and old Mojo keris in a gayaman sheath. The other an old kebo lajer in a ladrang sheath.

David · 10th July 2009, 03:36 AM

This old-timer is well worn with a nice patina and beautiful flashing grain that flashes red at some points and some really nicely carved cut-through spots..

David · 10th July 2009, 03:42 AM

This one is not so old, but has some real nice carving. I am not fully convinced that these floral figurative hilts are really of the same species as these other buta hilts. They seem to have a very different posture. But they are most often counted in with their crouching brothers so here is my example.

David · 10th July 2009, 03:48 AM

Finally here's one i recently acquired which doesn't really belong here as it depicts a wayang character, not a rakassa/buta, but i'm going to throw it in just because i like it.

Also i can't help but feel that these older buta forms were somewhat influenced by wayang forms. Some of the older raksasa shown in this thread definitely seem to have some wayang characteristics.

erikscollectables · 10th July 2009, 03:17 PM

This is probably my favorite figural hilt.
Might have been cleaned as well but not by me....
Very old - but still very good condition and relatively very large

Sajen · 10th July 2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables

This is probably my favorite figural hilt.
Might have been cleaned as well but not by me....
Very old - but still very good condition and relatively very large

Hi Erik,

very nice hilt and you can see clearly it's age. A real patina you can't "clean" away.

Here is my favorite hilt of this type, also very old and from small size.

sajen

erikscollectables · 10th July 2009, 03:56 PM

It is difficult not to get a bit jealous with all these great hilts in other collections than mine...Again great example!
And as I am testing my new camera anyway another favorite!

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Erik,

very nice hilt and you can see clearly it's age. A real patina you can't "clean" away.

Here is my favorite hilt of this type, also very old and from small size.

sajen

Sajen · 10th July 2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erikscollectables

It is difficult not to get a bit jealous with all these great hilts in other collections than mine...Again great example!
And as I am testing my new camera anyway another favorite!

Hello Erik,

test have been effective! And now I am a little bit jealous, this type in ivory I only have in very small size and not so nice like yours.

sajen

ganjawulung · 10th July 2009, 05:48 PM

Hmmm, Erik and Sajen,

Jealous with you too. My 'dealer' friend from Yogya said, he had sent such a lot of hilts like this to Europe these recent months. Are you the one to send? (Just kidding..., please)

And these are more pictures of another variant of such 'raksasa', 'buta' or 'wayang hilt' whatever you call them...

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen · 10th July 2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Hmmm, Erik and Sajen,

Jealous with you too. My 'dealer' friend from Yogya said, he had sent such a lot of hilts like this to Europe these recent months. Are you the one to send? (Just kidding..., please)

And these are more pictures of another variant of such 'raksasa', 'buta' or 'wayang hilt' whatever you call them...

GANJAWULUNG

Dear Pak Ganjawulung,

you don't need to be jealous, it seems that you have a never ending collection of this hilt form!

sajen

ganjawulung · 10th July 2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well i finally had some time to photograph my few examples. Meet the twins. These two guys are so alike i think the same carver may have done them. One is and old Mojo keris in a gayaman sheath. The other an old kebo lajer in a ladrang sheath.

Very fine twins. Where did you get these two butas from, David?

David · 10th July 2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erikscollectables

It is difficult not to get a bit jealous with all these great hilts in other collections than mine...Again great example!

C'mon Erik, you talk about jealousy and then saw us this ivory beauty. Jealousy is mine my friend!

David · 10th July 2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Very fine twins. Where did you get these two butas from, David?

A certain Australian source.

Sajen · 10th July 2009, 08:08 PM

Here is my small ivory handle of this type, very old but far away from the quality Erik show us.

sajen

Jussi M. · 20th February 2011, 11:21 PM

Classic?

Thanks,

J.

Jean · 21st February 2011, 12:06 PM

Some very old hilts from Northern Java. It seems to me that some of the specimens shown originate from East Java/ Madura and Bali.
Best regards
Jean

10th July 2009, 03:31 AM	#33
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Meet the Twins! Well i finally had some time to photograph my few examples. Meet the twins. These two guys are so alike i think the same carver may have done them. One is and old Mojo keris in a gayaman sheath. The other an old kebo lajer in a ladrang sheath. Attached Images Last edited by David; 10th July 2009 at 03:48 AM.

10th July 2009, 03:36 AM	#34
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	This old-timer is well worn with a nice patina and beautiful flashing grain that flashes red at some points and some really nicely carved cut-through spots.. Attached Images

10th July 2009, 03:42 AM	#35
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	This one is not so old, but has some real nice carving. I am not fully convinced that these floral figurative hilts are really of the same species as these other buta hilts. They seem to have a very different posture. But they are most often counted in with their crouching brothers so here is my example. Attached Images

10th July 2009, 03:48 AM	#36
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Finally here's one i recently acquired which doesn't really belong here as it depicts a wayang character, not a rakassa/buta, but i'm going to throw it in just because i like it. Also i can't help but feel that these older buta forms were somewhat influenced by wayang forms. Some of the older raksasa shown in this thread definitely seem to have some wayang characteristics. Attached Images

10th July 2009, 03:17 PM	#37
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	favorite This is probably my favorite figural hilt. Might have been cleaned as well but not by me.... Very old - but still very good condition and relatively very large Attached Images

10th July 2009, 02:57 AM	#31
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Dear Sajen, The one with Garuda Mungkur, of course. Not the craftmanship, but the originality. To see original old motifs, for me is more important than just seeing good craftmanship.. GANJAWULUNG

10th July 2009, 05:48 PM	#41
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Hmmm, Erik and Sajen, Jealous with you too. My 'dealer' friend from Yogya said, he had sent such a lot of hilts like this to Europe these recent months. Are you the one to send? (Just kidding..., please) And these are more pictures of another variant of such 'raksasa', 'buta' or 'wayang hilt' whatever you call them... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

10th July 2009, 08:08 PM	#46
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,791	Here is my small ivory handle of this type, very old but far away from the quality Erik show us. sajen Attached Images

20th February 2011, 11:21 PM	#47
Jussi M. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 235	Classic? Thanks, J.

21st February 2011, 12:06 PM	#48
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Some very old hilts from Northern Java. It seems to me that some of the specimens shown originate from East Java/ Madura and Bali. Best regards Jean Attached Images