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Old 10th December 2009, 08:40 PM   #1
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Is the gonjo missing ?
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Old 10th December 2009, 08:52 PM   #2
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That,s a good quistion...

I think it was ment to be like this.
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Old 10th December 2009, 09:20 PM   #3
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Take a look at the peksi. that might tell you if a ganja is missing.
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Old 10th December 2009, 10:17 PM   #4
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How do we identify the hilt material as hippo ivory?

Is there documented evidence of trade in hippo ivory between Malaysia and the regions where hippo are found?

These are serious questions. I simply do not know the answers.
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Old 10th December 2009, 10:26 PM   #5
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Okey let,s say the hilt is no hippo . someone has a idea what it could be than ?

Mr Maisy . do you have a opinion over the blade ?

Ganja iras or..?
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Old 10th December 2009, 10:39 PM   #6
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Re the hilt Danny, I do not have any idea what it might be. If you have followed our hilt material guessing games you will understand that it can sometimes be pretty difficult to say with any certainty what material a hilt might be from. More often than not I don't get involved in these guessing games.

Re the blade, from the photos I don't think that this is a gonjo iras blade.The proportion seems wrong for gonjo iras, and in a gonjo iras blade the gonjo is usually indicated by a line in the place where we would normally find a joint.

If you remove the hilt and have a look at the tang (pesi) you may be able to gain some indication as to whether a gonjo was ever fitted, or not, but even this inspection may not provide positive evidence one way or the other. If you find a slightly larger diameter in the tang immediately above the blade base, it is very probable that a gonjo was once fitted that has now been lost.However, the absence of this increased diameter is no gaurantee that a gonjo was never fitted.

A better indication might be to look at the width of the blade base. When you remove the hilt, I suggest that you post a photo looking down directly onto the blade base.
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Old 10th December 2009, 10:40 PM   #7
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Thanks Gustav.
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Old 10th December 2009, 10:31 PM   #8
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Hippo-ivory often (always?) has a fine line of small dots, dense structure and gets not so dark with time. This hilt has something like this line of dots, at the base it turned to a crack, but visible on the head and the inner side(and looks a little bit strange).

The source may be the bugis trade with East Africa.

I suppose, the blade has lost the gonjo.
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