Bali keris?

David · 31st July 2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes Marco, quite similar, but I feel that the key word here is "traditional", by which I mean a motif predating the current era.

Can you define "current era" Alan? When would you say it begins?

A. G. Maisey · 1st August 2009, 01:22 AM

Yes, good question David.

This is term that I have taken to using, its not one that is is in general widespread usage. To be honest, I am torn between two, or perhaps three or even four points of demarcation.

One point would be from around the mid-1970's, when the keris in Jawa began its revival.

A second point would be after the Japanese occupation of what is now Indonesia , ceased.

A third point would be from the beginning of the 20th century.

The fourth, and perhaps most logical point would be from approximately 1940, when the Second World War caused the disappearance of the old way of life in South East Asia.

I still haven't firmed up on exactly what I think "current era" should mean, but taking the all inclusive view, it must be at least after the beginning of the 20th century.

Indonesians themselves have taken to a fifth point of demarcation, which is the period following the declaration of Indonesian independence:- 17th August 1945.

1st August 2009, 01:22 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Yes, good question David. This is term that I have taken to using, its not one that is is in general widespread usage. To be honest, I am torn between two, or perhaps three or even four points of demarcation. One point would be from around the mid-1970's, when the keris in Jawa began its revival. A second point would be after the Japanese occupation of what is now Indonesia , ceased. A third point would be from the beginning of the 20th century. The fourth, and perhaps most logical point would be from approximately 1940, when the Second World War caused the disappearance of the old way of life in South East Asia. I still haven't firmed up on exactly what I think "current era" should mean, but taking the all inclusive view, it must be at least after the beginning of the 20th century. Indonesians themselves have taken to a fifth point of demarcation, which is the period following the declaration of Indonesian independence:- 17th August 1945.