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Two fine military wheel-lock muskets from my collection, the upper with 'high tech' combined wheel- and snap matchlock, Suhl, Thuringia, dated 1602, the lower Nuremberg, ca. 1600; both preserved in near mint condition throughout. Below a detached, very early wheel-lock, North Italian, ca. 1535.
And a few of my earliest wheel-lock spanners, the dating range comprising the 1520's to up to ca. 1560. From left to right: ca. 1520's, combined spanner and priming flask ca. 1560, combined spanner, screw driver and priming flask ca. 1530, North Italian Right, from top to bottom: each ca. 1540, combined spanners and screw drivers. Those little guys were kept in the butt traps of short wheel-lock harquebuses, so that's what those early 'patch boxes' actually contained. Michael |
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herewith one puffer from my collection.
Nuremberg town mark and men with hat mark, 1570. the maker mark HG at the lock is unknown to me, maybe somebody can help out? best |
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Hi Cornelis,
Thank you so much for posting that fine and early Nuremberg puffer. Judging by the style of the hop umbles inlay, by the leaf shaped endings of the lock springs and by the head and pointed hat mark on the barrel, I should date this pistol even as early as the second half of the 1560's. There are various similar but mostly Augsburg made puffers in the Historic Museum Geneva, cf. Godoy: Armes à feu XVe-XVIIe siècle, as well as in the Landeszeughaus Graz, cf. Robert Brooker: Landeszeughaus Graz, Wheellock Collection, 2007. Unfortunately I could not find any records on that special lock maker's mark. Athough there are several Nuremberg marks showing the lily motif and the initials HG in Stockel none of them is identical to that on your piece. It my be a closely related Nuremberg workshop mark, though. Would you mind posting another two pics showing the whole puffer from both the lock and counter lock side? ![]() Michael |
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Hi Michael,
thank you, I also could not find the marks ![]() at the moment the puffer is at a friend collector who does a small restoration for me ( a piece of leaf inlay at the front is partly missing) I will list more pics end of June. regards from Holland |
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Herewith some more foto's Best regards |
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I must say Michael and Cornelis, you give me a newfound appreciation for guns, their history and the intricacies of their development. The passion you put into the study of every part is inspiring.
Many thanks! Emanuel |
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I know next to nothing on these firearms, but I know that like me, many are paying close attention, and we are definitely learning, from two incredible professors!! ![]() Thank you so much Michael and Cornelis!!! All the best, Jim |
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compared to Michael's knowledge of 16thC arms I'm absolutely the student and not the professor, his detailed knowledge of 16thc characteristics is amazing. Compared to Jim's ability to write articles like poetry, I have to classify myself below the student level. I really appreciate to have met you guys on this forum. regards from Holland |
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Hi Cornelis,
Thanks a lot for these overall views! Very beautiful and early puffer! Gentlemen, once more you made me blush. ![]() ![]() I am glad to have been given the opportunity to join our forum and have regarded it as a game of give and take ever since. Believe me, the more specific knowledge you have amassed the lonelier you get. So again, it's really great to have you out there. With all my very best wishes as always, Michael |
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the lock mechanism.
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Thanks, Cornelis,
I have actually been waiting for exactly this. Well done, pal, your puffer was definitely made shortly before 1570!!! Best, Michael |
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It is obvious that the inner side of the lock plate even retains its original blueing, now mostly faded to gray.
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Hi Michael,
thank you for your comments on the lock, what amazes me is that this 1570 lock looks like it has been designed recently on a computer, all the small fragile parts (chain) are protected by disc and plate.also all the springs are "hidden" or don't look like springs. for a Wheelock mechanism really a masterpiece. regards from Holland |
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Hi Cornelis,
Imagine: this kind of perfectly thought out interior lock design was actually in wide use in the big firearms centers all out thru Nuremberg, Augsburg, Munich, Suhl, and Regensburg (all Bavarian except Suhl, which of course is in Thuringia) since the 1550's! (With slight differences in the earlier years, of course ...) Best from Bavaria, and tipping my next dark beer to Holland and one of its masters of great private collections ![]() Michael |
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Please also see my threads on wheellock spanners 1520-1620:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...-lock+spanners http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...-lock+spanners http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...l-lock+spanner http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...-lock+spanners Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 24th May 2014 at 05:56 PM. |
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