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Old 1st June 2009, 08:29 PM   #1
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Default Two Late Medieval Handgonnes at the Musée de l'Armée, Paris

The detached barrel ca. 1400 to early 15th century, the iron tiller gonne ca. 1440-50.

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Ah Ah,
That sexy one in the top left is not a so distant family member of my (Aljubarrota?) example.
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Looks very good! What is the caliber and length of this barrels?
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Exactly, Fernando,

But while our Aljubarrota barrels are still of the Romanesque rounded form, this one has yet adapted the octagonal Gothic style and should, in my opinion, be correctly dated ca. 1400 to early 15th century - just like the Berne gun.

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to early 15th century - just like the Berne gun.

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What is the Berne gun?
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The Berne gun, ca. 1400 to early 15th c., the hook an addition of ca. 1430-40.
Preserved at the Historisches Museum Bern, Switzerland.
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What is the Berne gun?


You don't tell me you don't know what it is?!
You must be joking
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aaaa... I know this gun :-) What is the calibre and length of guns from Musée de l'Armée, Paris ?
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aaaa... I know this gun :-) What is the calibre and length of guns from Musée de l'Armée, Paris ?
Sorry,

I do not have any measurement details.

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