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20th March 2009, 05:03 PM
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katzbalger early 16thC.
I found a similar piece in the "historischen Museum" in Bern Switserland vgl. Wegeli Schwerter und Dolche nr 172 |
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20th March 2009, 05:52 PM
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Both of them seem to be very fine pieces, Cornelis - thank you for sharing!
I am tempted to assign a date of ca. 1530 to the first because of its thickly ribbed pommel. Those ribs closely correspond to those found on both contemporary armor and barrels. Is it posible to take a few good details of the brass grip showing its line decoration? That would be great. You sure are one very lucky guy to get those, congratulations. All the best, Michael |
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20th March 2009, 06:27 PM
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Cornelistromp, these are wonderful items, thank you for posting. So far I like #2 in particular, bacause of the "munition grade" appearance, not counting the unusual decoration of the copper (?) rivets in the guard. I would love to see a photo of all 4 swords togather, to see the entire blades and relative sizes.
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20th March 2009, 06:36 PM
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ps:All the katzbalger of this particular type ( the 3 pieces I know) , have the same copper fillings at the quard. Last edited by cornelistromp; 20th March 2009 at 06:48 PM. |
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21st March 2009, 05:09 PM
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developed Katzbalger, spain 1540
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21st March 2009, 05:11 PM
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katzbalger 4 waterfind.
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20th March 2009, 06:33 PM
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one side is a female saint Barbara with tower and feather at the reverse side
a man with a sword and a book probably saint Paul. this Katzbalger can be dated first quarter of the 16thC. Last edited by cornelistromp; 21st March 2009 at 05:39 PM. |
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24th March 2009, 02:50 AM
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Hi Cornelius, May I repeat my request to get provided with some good detailed photographs of the figural representations on the brass grip of your first Katzbalger? Thanks in advance for putting up with any inconveniences of photography!  Michael |
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24th March 2009, 08:01 AM
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of course, i added some text ,are you not afraid of abuse of pictures? Best regards Last edited by cornelistromp; 24th March 2009 at 06:58 PM. |
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24th March 2009, 03:52 PM
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Hi Cornelis,
Thank you for posting these - this is an important sample of a Katzbalger indeed!!!  Actually, Saint Barbara is holding, additionally to the church tower, a martyr's palm, not a feather. Well, I am not really afraid of abuse of my pictures. On the other hand, as soon as I will have a digital camera I may protect them by a printed logo as well. Michael |
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24th March 2009, 04:49 PM
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thank you, Im very happy with it do you agree that the person with the book and the sword at the reverse side is Saint Paulus ? regards from Holland |
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