ANY OTHER KIWIS HERE?

[ausjulius]

Originally Posted by Rick

True, but now you have Poutine and Tim Horton's Ausjulius .

. rather have fish and chips and a nice steak on a burger and some potato fritters :P... hehehe.. i recall the chipshop in mangawhare and bloody good chips and he had potato scollops aswell. ahhh new zealand hot chips are the best!.. i havent been back for so long, in australia the chip shops get less and less, mostly they get sold up to chinese then make the stuff for a while how australians like and then sell it aain for some other lot and it ends up selling a hodge podge of things,, but no more hot chips , just thoes soggy one sin the paper cups.. :S


oh id dagestan the did have "пиза ха!" it was a fake pizza hut,, the sold vodka and beer and such,, had some antique weapons on the wall.. marble floors!! ,, weird place, you could order buffalo meat or mountain goat on your pizza..


ah well fast food like mc donalds here is just too common.. alas.. must be more takeaway places than i can shake a stick at, :P
but i do like the range of ribs in the supermarket, in australia it is something you must ask the butcher for as they normaly not used in this way..

poutin is not bad but you need to eat it with a fork !

the food is better than in dagesan!!! :P

hinkal and boiled dough in dagestan ,, .. very meaty...... lots of ..... boiled meat,, boiled till its a greyish color.. and a bit of lambs tail and a cup of dripping to wash it down,,

ah but honestly. the food was not very .. special,
shahlik was good, but i dont think it is a meal traditionaly consumed as people dont normaly make it them selves other than when hunting,, i guess it originated further south .. azirbijan or turkey and the work is of turkic origin and the natives didnt have a native term in their own languages. ..

about hinkal.. ..........
once a russian general fighting in the caucascian was in the 19th centuary was in a meeting in a avar village in dagestan and ate hinkal as part of the show of loyalty by the natives toward him,, afterward he said
"hinkal is poison!!. but bullion is a antidote!" (bullion is the hot fat and juice from the boiling of the meat and dough)

actialy there is a dagestani table knife, or meat knife that was common upuntill russian stamped knives cam in 60 or so years ago.. they were very long and thin and sude for cutting off meat from the cooked animal or spearing hunks of meat..

il see if i can fins a foto of one , sometimes they are found in the back of the kindjal sheath along with a sharpening stone ,, and sometimes a awl, or a smaller knife..

it is interesting nearly all dagestani kindjals ive seen outside of dagestan were russianized or ultered in some way, normal the sheath lacked the tools at the back but traditioanl these were rather common , same with leather awls. also waxed wool sheath covers were common..

ah but anyway back to new zealand..

yes it is a pain with the laws about possessing maori weapons and such, but then remember these items are very sourght after and have been since the original time when they were used , during the maori wars large amounts of these items were traded and then sold in london and auctions , aswell as the sold heads.. so there was always a demand, and once they stopped being used that demand was ofcorse much higher than the amount there would be to be had.. and so,, if there was no law , there would be much less of these interesting items left in new zealand..

aspecialy considering that in all honesty the average maori dosnt hold any significance to these and would sell them off as any other would,, only rely is the chief cast who cling on to them.. as one would presume the should.

it is interesting that although canabalisim was very common particulary in the north island the human remains were never used in decorating weapons or costume as far as ive ever seen..

ive seen many south east asian weapons from head hunting peoples with human remains used in the as with melenesian weapons.. but never any maori weapons with an items of their victim attached..