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Old 5th June 2008, 02:41 PM   #1
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Default Bali / Lombok Ligan

This has just joined my family .
An interesting and uncommon form .
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Old 5th June 2008, 03:03 PM   #2
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Exquisite piece. Uncommon hilt and blade. Beautiful pamor works and sheath pattern. Congratulations!
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Old 5th June 2008, 04:29 PM   #3
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Thanks Alam Shah .

I'd be much interested in seeing other examples .
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Old 5th June 2008, 06:29 PM   #4
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I will repeat publicly my private response to you:
SWEET!
Now, how about some close ups.
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Old 5th June 2008, 08:40 PM   #5
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Hi David,
Will do, when the weather improves .

How about other examples ?
Anyone want to share ?
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Old 5th June 2008, 08:52 PM   #6
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Oh my That is sweet!

Congratulations regards your new acquisition. I hope it brings you a lot of joy. I especially like the wrongko - beautiful.

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Old 6th June 2008, 12:16 PM   #7
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Rick your hit is the same family of this hit.
On the top of the hilt probably there is something like a naga. In the midle there is an ornament like old classic jawa bracelet for arm
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Old 6th June 2008, 02:39 PM   #8
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Hi Marco,

Yeah, it's a Gerantiman hilt quite similar to yours .
The curlycue on the top of the hilt looks like an unfolding sprout to me .
Maybe someone knows the symbolism of this hilt style .





Anyway, I will take more pictures when/if the weather clears .
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Old 11th June 2008, 01:12 AM   #9
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Dear Rick, is this keris also in Bali/Lombok Ligan families catagory?
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Old 11th June 2008, 01:47 AM   #10
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Hi Brekele,
Does this keris have a parang type of blade configuration ?
On my example the edge of the greneng side of the keris is dull until about nine and a half inches from the point, whereas the other edge (gandik side) is sharp its whole length .

I believe you showed a Ligan in an earlier post where I asked for examples .

That is a lovely keris, Ligan or not .

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Old 11th June 2008, 02:30 AM   #11
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I tried to look arround from almost all lombok local collectors and dealers, but haven't lucky yet to see this kind of keris Bali/Lombok Ligan
I guess only in Lalu Djelenga cabinet
Few months ago my best friend have success to bring out 2 strange keris that he keep before, just hope someday 1 more keris called Bali/Lombok Ligan come out from his cabinet for me
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Old 11th June 2008, 04:57 AM   #12
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Funny you should say that Brekele :
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=ligan
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Old 11th June 2008, 05:26 AM   #13
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Exquisite piece. Uncommon hilt and blade. Beautiful pamor works and sheath pattern. Congratulations!
Yes, more sophisticated than just "tambang badung" pamor. I think it is the type of "dwi warna" pamor (two kinds of pamor) -- if we look the pamor in the sor-soran (beras wutah or ngulit semangka) and tambangan badung from the mid blade to the tip... Nice pamor works
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Old 11th June 2008, 02:15 PM   #14
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I'm not really sure what pamor this is; it is a twisted type .
The blade has no iron core; it is solid pamor material as far as I can tell .
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Old 11th June 2008, 11:02 PM   #15
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Rick

Glad to welcome you to the club.

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001182.html

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Old 12th June 2008, 12:36 AM   #16
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Thanks, and you have a good memory Mick .

Great thread .
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Old 12th June 2008, 04:39 AM   #17
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Hey Mick, did you have to hurt me with that one again.
So sweet it is....
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Old 12th June 2008, 03:59 PM   #18
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I liked this .
Empu Kumis:
" The fulfillment of a keris is also the function to fill our soul with beauty and not only as pusaka ."

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