Rencong dodgy pic gamble.

Tim Simmons · 3rd June 2008, 08:49 PM

I am still trying to crack this region, that is finding a good example I can afford or more truthfully for what I think they are worth. I am gambling a good lunch for two here. More than one wants to loose if it can be helped. The pictures are not good, The seller says it is copper and silver "tarnished". I know some silver does go yellowish. There appears to be a fuller to the blade so I am assuming there is some strength. The pictures with such bad light and focus give little real idea, just have to wait and see. Fingers crossed

Lew · 3rd June 2008, 08:55 PM

Tim

Not bad for a few portions of fish and chips

Lew

Tim Simmons · 3rd June 2008, 09:05 PM

It a bit more than just fish and chips. Something to start with, seafood, then good quality fish and chips and a bottle of drinkable wine then coffe, to be realistic. We will see.

Henk · 3rd June 2008, 10:06 PM

Tim,

Considering the fact that these pictures are really bad, I wouldn't be surprised your next post after arrival would be the message that you went with the Mrs. to a good restaurant to celebrate.

I'm very curious to the pictures after arrival.

asomotif · 4th June 2008, 02:01 AM

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or more truthfully for what I think they are worth

Tim, what do you think they are worth ?

I have seen rencong between Eur 25 and Eur 2500.

Tim Simmons · 4th June 2008, 07:38 AM

How much is any of our junk worth is a good point.

I think what I mean is, as I do not have a passion for this area but out of general interest a reasonable example to add to the junk pile would be nice. The aim of adding with just general interest is to get things at a price one could sell on when needed and get your money back or even make a little. I just feel so much of this stuff is a bit on the high side. It could be here tomorrow.

Tim Simmons · 5th June 2008, 09:52 AM

I will not bore you all with pictures. Some you win some you loose. I have not lost for quite a while so I can take it on the chin. Ouch

CharlesS · 5th June 2008, 01:18 PM

Sorry about that Tim. I went through quite a few pieces of Indonesian rubbish before fully understanding and getting a feel for old verses new.

Get as many books as you can and as much exposure as you can to authentic pieces.....but even so expect some frustrations along the way. None of us has 'the perfect eye' and we can all tell stories of our own errors.

asomotif · 5th June 2008, 02:07 PM

Too bad about that punch on the chin.
But it doesn't seem to be a KO so... take 5 and get back in the ring again

Check the forum (search) for rencong and or rentjong.
There have been quite some nice examples posted by various forumites.

Personally I am alway suspicious about metal hilts and for me, scabbards should always be wood. although in Jean Greffioz book on keris there is one with a buffalo horn scabbard.

Good luck and best regards,
Willem

katana · 5th June 2008, 11:19 PM

Hi Tim,
its a shame....but I expect many of us have regretted some of our 'buys'. Often, with so many things in life, the higher the 'risk' ....the 'higher' the chance of getting a 'dud'.
Still, on the 'bright side', for you, it doesn't happen often ...I am sure your next 'risky' acquisition will pay dividends

Regards David

3rd June 2008, 08:49 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Rencong dodgy pic gamble. I am still trying to crack this region, that is finding a good example I can afford or more truthfully for what I think they are worth. I am gambling a good lunch for two here. More than one wants to loose if it can be helped. The pictures are not good, The seller says it is copper and silver "tarnished". I know some silver does go yellowish. There appears to be a fuller to the blade so I am assuming there is some strength. The pictures with such bad light and focus give little real idea, just have to wait and see. Fingers crossed Attached Images

5th June 2008, 09:52 AM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	RUBBISH I will not bore you all with pictures. Some you win some you loose. I have not lost for quite a while so I can take it on the chin. Ouch

3rd June 2008, 08:55 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim Not bad for a few portions of fish and chips Lew

3rd June 2008, 09:05 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	It a bit more than just fish and chips. Something to start with, seafood, then good quality fish and chips and a bottle of drinkable wine then coffe, to be realistic. We will see.

3rd June 2008, 10:06 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Tim, Considering the fact that these pictures are really bad, I wouldn't be surprised your next post after arrival would be the message that you went with the Mrs. to a good restaurant to celebrate. I'm very curious to the pictures after arrival.

4th June 2008, 07:38 AM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	How much is any of our junk worth is a good point. I think what I mean is, as I do not have a passion for this area but out of general interest a reasonable example to add to the junk pile would be nice. The aim of adding with just general interest is to get things at a price one could sell on when needed and get your money back or even make a little. I just feel so much of this stuff is a bit on the high side. It could be here tomorrow.

5th June 2008, 01:18 PM	#8
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Sorry about that Tim. I went through quite a few pieces of Indonesian rubbish before fully understanding and getting a feel for old verses new. Get as many books as you can and as much exposure as you can to authentic pieces.....but even so expect some frustrations along the way. None of us has 'the perfect eye' and we can all tell stories of our own errors.

5th June 2008, 02:07 PM	#9
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Too bad about that punch on the chin. But it doesn't seem to be a KO so... take 5 and get back in the ring again Check the forum (search) for rencong and or rentjong. There have been quite some nice examples posted by various forumites. Personally I am alway suspicious about metal hilts and for me, scabbards should always be wood. although in Jean Greffioz book on keris there is one with a buffalo horn scabbard. Good luck and best regards, Willem

5th June 2008, 11:19 PM	#10
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Tim, its a shame....but I expect many of us have regretted some of our 'buys'. Often, with so many things in life, the higher the 'risk' ....the 'higher' the chance of getting a 'dud'. Still, on the 'bright side', for you, it doesn't happen often ...I am sure your next 'risky' acquisition will pay dividends Regards David