Thai? Burmese? But Brit. Indian military.

spiral · 26th March 2008, 10:46 PM

Ive had four of these over the years, [seen about 12 or 13.] kukri collecters buy them as kukris, They are all made at Cossipore Arsenal, mostly in 1919,1921 & 1927 Although Ive seen a scabbard dated 1917.

To me the look Burmese or Thai a WW2 veteran told me a few years ago he saw Chin troops in the Brit army carrying similar native weapons. I think there probably a copy of a tribal burmese or Thai tribal design? Rather than a kukri?

So anyway you Dhafia guys

Can you help on the origins of this design?that the Brit. Indian army clearly copied in thier armourys for at least 10 years.

Also The bullk of the blade steel seems essentialy as forged ? rather than further ground. Most seems to be excelent steel & temper.

They make great users very practical design.

Spiral

Also this one carries a WIWI 4 marking that. Ive never been able to fathom the meaning of though.

DhaDha · 26th March 2008, 10:56 PM

I've seen a few modern versions sold as "Thai Knives" on Ebay. The seller also sells new Darbs on a regular basis.
Shawn

spiral · 26th March 2008, 11:25 PM

Thankyou Shawn, Ive seen those to, I wonder about the historical precidence of such a design though? Who? where? when?

Spiral

PUFF · 28th March 2008, 06:43 AM

Similar design has been used in central region of Thailand.
http://www.thailandoutdoor.com/ArtOf...b1/e-nab1.html

spiral · 28th March 2008, 11:26 AM

Thankyou for the link Puff!

There certanly of the same family of weapons I would say.

Sadley I cant read Thai, does it mention a name for these? also which tribes or people used them & how old are they known to be historicaly?

Many thanks,

Spiral

PUFF · 28th March 2008, 12:31 PM

According to this thread. As far as I know, the design has been used for more than 200 yo. They were used as utility knife in garden, farm and jungle. Some of them are slightly modified to suit local wood (rattan, bamboo, coconut, hardwood, softwood etc.)

Here 's the antique type.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2798

And you may find more modern type here.
http://images.google.co.th/images?hl...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

spiral · 28th March 2008, 06:05 PM

Thankyou Puff!

Spiral

26th March 2008, 10:46 PM	#1
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thai? Burmese? But Brit. Indian military. Ive had four of these over the years, [seen about 12 or 13.] kukri collecters buy them as kukris, They are all made at Cossipore Arsenal, mostly in 1919,1921 & 1927 Although Ive seen a scabbard dated 1917. To me the look Burmese or Thai a WW2 veteran told me a few years ago he saw Chin troops in the Brit army carrying similar native weapons. I think there probably a copy of a tribal burmese or Thai tribal design? Rather than a kukri? So anyway you Dhafia guys Can you help on the origins of this design?that the Brit. Indian army clearly copied in thier armourys for at least 10 years. Also The bullk of the blade steel seems essentialy as forged ? rather than further ground. Most seems to be excelent steel & temper. They make great users very practical design. Spiral Also this one carries a WIWI 4 marking that. Ive never been able to fathom the meaning of though.

28th March 2008, 06:43 AM	#4
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	Similar design has been used in central region of Thailand. http://www.thailandoutdoor.com/ArtOf...b1/e-nab1.html Last edited by PUFF; 28th March 2008 at 08:55 AM.

26th March 2008, 10:56 PM	#2
DhaDha Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 164	I've seen a few modern versions sold as "Thai Knives" on Ebay. The seller also sells new Darbs on a regular basis. Shawn

26th March 2008, 11:25 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thankyou Shawn, Ive seen those to, I wonder about the historical precidence of such a design though? Who? where? when? Spiral

28th March 2008, 11:26 AM	#5
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thankyou for the link Puff! There certanly of the same family of weapons I would say. Sadley I cant read Thai, does it mention a name for these? also which tribes or people used them & how old are they known to be historicaly? Many thanks, Spiral

28th March 2008, 12:31 PM	#6
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	According to this thread. As far as I know, the design has been used for more than 200 yo. They were used as utility knife in garden, farm and jungle. Some of them are slightly modified to suit local wood (rattan, bamboo, coconut, hardwood, softwood etc.) Here 's the antique type. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2798 And you may find more modern type here. http://images.google.co.th/images?hl...-8&sa=N&tab=wi

28th March 2008, 06:05 PM	#7
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Thankyou Puff! Spiral