Return of the giant Minang keris

Newsteel · 11th June 2007, 03:09 AM

Nice one Kai Wee

Like Alam mentioned, the pendokok is really beautiful. Have not seen like that before. By the way, how big is this Minang piece?

PenangsangII · 11th June 2007, 03:45 AM

I've been wanting to get this kind of keris, the tough looking bugis influenced, but with artistic approach of the Malays/Minang or even Javanese.

Congrats Blu for an outstanding piece.

Marcokeris · 11th June 2007, 03:57 PM

Beautiful mendak.
I never seen one like this

BluErf · 12th June 2007, 02:39 AM

Dear everyone! I'm posting this message from beautiful Langkawi, where my seminar is held.

To your comments -

David - Unfortunately, Mr Nik Rashidee has just built a beautiful, large extension to his house, so I don't think he is thinking of moving anytime soon.

Battara: The pendoko is gold. It is an old one, with the traditional red stain (sepuhan merah). The picture may not show the red stain on the gold very well, but also because the red stain has worn off some. This pendoko is about as fine as it gets. The wire filigree work is very fine and well executed, and the telur ikan (fish eggs - the tiny gold beads) are numerous and carefully attached to the base frame. I don't know anyone who can do this quality of work now, but if there is one such craftsman, I would most certainly like to get in touch with him! Yep, the toe is ivory.

Newsteel: I don't have the piece with me in Langkawi, so I'd roughly estimate it at about 14-15inches. The blade is very thick and heavy. So Proportion-wise, this keris is a giant amongst other Minang kerises, which usually range between 8 - 12inches and are not so thick.

The hilt, pendoko and blade are original to each other. The hilt was attached to the blade with resin (fortunately), which prevented a previous owner from removing the pendoko. In fact, the previous owner broke the hilt trying to remove the pendoko. Luckily, the hilt could be glued back with strong wood glue. The hilt's wood is dark, but has a very deep chatoyance. It's beautiful. I keep it because the wood is great, the form is great, and most important of all, it protected the pendoko.

I can only imagine about the lost sheath and how beautiful it may have been.

This newly-made sheath is based on the example in walk-in-splendour, so I guess the form should be more or less appropriate to the Minang keris archetypes, and not a shot in the dark (I hope

).

PenangsangII · 12th June 2007, 03:58 AM

Pls forgive my ignorance, but I thought the blade looks very bugis to me. In addition, the hilt & the newly made sarung also looks very bugis also. Could you pls enlighten me what constitutes this blade as minang piece? Thx in advance.

David · 12th June 2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluErf

David - Unfortunately, Mr Nik Rashidee has just built a beautiful, large extension to his house, so I don't think he is thinking of moving anytime soon.

Perhaps he would like a nice summer home along the beautiful Ohio River...

HanaChu69 · 14th June 2007, 04:24 AM

Hi Kai Wee

Thanks for sharing and I’m glad to see the close up of this fine giant. There’s no doubt Mr Nik’s workmanship is always the finest, will deliver and meet to your expectation. It’s a wise move to keep the hilt, pendoko and blade in its original form. However, the crackline at the hilt is pretty obvious though.

Hope you enjoy your seminar and don’t miss out Langkawi’s cable car ride.

Take care,
HanaChu69

BluErf · 15th June 2007, 03:40 PM

Finally back home, and a tired wreck. Strange that a 4-day seminar is so draining.

Ok, if David would sponsor a summer house, that might do the trick.

Regarding PenangsangII's queries, I cannot put an exact point to it, but this blade does not look like any typical Bugis keris blade to me. The cross-section is more oval than hexagonal. If you look around, you'll see that hexagonal cross-section is an important characteristic of Bugis blades. The peksi is another factor - it is much longer than any Bugis blades I have seen. The overall grace and feel of the blade does not conform to the Bugis norm. In fact, the overall shape of the blade is very similar to this (From Tengkurizan's page): http://tengkurizan.fotopic.net/p32156230.html

The hilt form is not Bugis. It looks like the Bugis pistol-grip form, but it is not. It is an in-between of a Bugis-pistol grip and a jawa demam form. This sort of hilt is associated with Central Sumatra, and probably somewhere near the coastal region. These coastal regions have a mix of Minang, Malay and Bugis influences, and is referred by the Minang in the mountainous heartland as "rantau", or crudely-speaking "overseas".

The pendoko is not the usual Bugis or Malay melaka-cup style. This sort of elaborate pendoko is characterised by having a deep "bowl", and is normally associated with Minang kerises. The gold filigree work is also not Bugis, but closer to Minang work.

Of course we may argue that if it is from a region which has Minang, Malay and Bugis influences, then it is as correct to call the keris a Bugis or a Malay keris. The Walk in Splendour book certainly tilted my opinion towards classifying it as a Minang keris.

BluErf · 15th June 2007, 03:45 PM

Hi Hanachu, v unlucky - cable car closed on maintenance on the day we were slated for an island tour. But there'll be another chance.

The crack is actually not that obvious. The picture was a real closeup and under very good lighting condition. Normally, you have to look very hard to find it. Regardless, it has been mended with Bozny wood glue - now the joint is stronger than before.

11th June 2007, 03:45 AM	#2
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	composite keris I've been wanting to get this kind of keris, the tough looking bugis influenced, but with artistic approach of the Malays/Minang or even Javanese. Congrats Blu for an outstanding piece.

12th June 2007, 03:58 AM	#5
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	minang vs bugis Pls forgive my ignorance, but I thought the blade looks very bugis to me. In addition, the hilt & the newly made sarung also looks very bugis also. Could you pls enlighten me what constitutes this blade as minang piece? Thx in advance.

14th June 2007, 04:24 AM	#7
HanaChu69 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	Cool!! Hi Kai Wee Thanks for sharing and I’m glad to see the close up of this fine giant. There’s no doubt Mr Nik’s workmanship is always the finest, will deliver and meet to your expectation. It’s a wise move to keep the hilt, pendoko and blade in its original form. However, the crackline at the hilt is pretty obvious though. Hope you enjoy your seminar and don’t miss out Langkawi’s cable car ride. Take care, HanaChu69

11th June 2007, 03:09 AM	#1
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Nice one Kai Wee Like Alam mentioned, the pendokok is really beautiful. Have not seen like that before. By the way, how big is this Minang piece?

11th June 2007, 03:57 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Beautiful mendak. I never seen one like this

12th June 2007, 02:39 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Dear everyone! I'm posting this message from beautiful Langkawi, where my seminar is held. To your comments - David - Unfortunately, Mr Nik Rashidee has just built a beautiful, large extension to his house, so I don't think he is thinking of moving anytime soon. Battara: The pendoko is gold. It is an old one, with the traditional red stain (sepuhan merah). The picture may not show the red stain on the gold very well, but also because the red stain has worn off some. This pendoko is about as fine as it gets. The wire filigree work is very fine and well executed, and the telur ikan (fish eggs - the tiny gold beads) are numerous and carefully attached to the base frame. I don't know anyone who can do this quality of work now, but if there is one such craftsman, I would most certainly like to get in touch with him! Yep, the toe is ivory. Newsteel: I don't have the piece with me in Langkawi, so I'd roughly estimate it at about 14-15inches. The blade is very thick and heavy. So Proportion-wise, this keris is a giant amongst other Minang kerises, which usually range between 8 - 12inches and are not so thick. The hilt, pendoko and blade are original to each other. The hilt was attached to the blade with resin (fortunately), which prevented a previous owner from removing the pendoko. In fact, the previous owner broke the hilt trying to remove the pendoko. Luckily, the hilt could be glued back with strong wood glue. The hilt's wood is dark, but has a very deep chatoyance. It's beautiful. I keep it because the wood is great, the form is great, and most important of all, it protected the pendoko. I can only imagine about the lost sheath and how beautiful it may have been. This newly-made sheath is based on the example in walk-in-splendour, so I guess the form should be more or less appropriate to the Minang keris archetypes, and not a shot in the dark (I hope ).

15th June 2007, 03:40 PM	#8
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Finally back home, and a tired wreck. Strange that a 4-day seminar is so draining. Ok, if David would sponsor a summer house, that might do the trick. Regarding PenangsangII's queries, I cannot put an exact point to it, but this blade does not look like any typical Bugis keris blade to me. The cross-section is more oval than hexagonal. If you look around, you'll see that hexagonal cross-section is an important characteristic of Bugis blades. The peksi is another factor - it is much longer than any Bugis blades I have seen. The overall grace and feel of the blade does not conform to the Bugis norm. In fact, the overall shape of the blade is very similar to this (From Tengkurizan's page): http://tengkurizan.fotopic.net/p32156230.html The hilt form is not Bugis. It looks like the Bugis pistol-grip form, but it is not. It is an in-between of a Bugis-pistol grip and a jawa demam form. This sort of hilt is associated with Central Sumatra, and probably somewhere near the coastal region. These coastal regions have a mix of Minang, Malay and Bugis influences, and is referred by the Minang in the mountainous heartland as "rantau", or crudely-speaking "overseas". The pendoko is not the usual Bugis or Malay melaka-cup style. This sort of elaborate pendoko is characterised by having a deep "bowl", and is normally associated with Minang kerises. The gold filigree work is also not Bugis, but closer to Minang work. Of course we may argue that if it is from a region which has Minang, Malay and Bugis influences, then it is as correct to call the keris a Bugis or a Malay keris. The Walk in Splendour book certainly tilted my opinion towards classifying it as a Minang keris.

15th June 2007, 03:45 PM	#9
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Hanachu, v unlucky - cable car closed on maintenance on the day we were slated for an island tour. But there'll be another chance. The crack is actually not that obvious. The picture was a real closeup and under very good lighting condition. Normally, you have to look very hard to find it. Regardless, it has been mended with Bozny wood glue - now the joint is stronger than before.