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galvano · 26th May 2007, 12:48 PM

I believe that it is an old blade.
Which is your opinion?
It is written 1501. date?
Overall length 26 cm.
Length of the blade 17,5 cm.

Jens Nordlunde · 26th May 2007, 01:36 PM

Hi Galvano,

Funny things you dig up, did you notice that the decoration is on the left side of the blade, not on the right side where it would normally be, so maybe the user was left handed? I can’t help you much with the coat-of-arms, but the top left square looks like a tower, the square to the right is the colour purple, the left bottom square is the blue, but what the square to the right is supposed to be, is more than I can tell you.

VANDOO · 26th May 2007, 05:53 PM

A VERY INTERESTING BLADE I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING A COAT OF ARMS CRUDELY CUT INTO A BLADE BEFORE. I SUSPECT THE CARVING AT THE TOP IS SOME SORT OF BIRD, PERHAPS A PHEONIX OR PEACOCK. THE CARVEING ON THE LOWER RIGHT ALSO HAS ME STUMPED?

CourseEight · 26th May 2007, 10:26 PM

It's like a Rorschach test! I see above the coat of arms a knight's head, like this. In the lower right quadrant I see an anchor, but that's totally a guess.

Lew · 26th May 2007, 10:38 PM

Why would you put your coat of arms on such a crudely made dagger? My guess is that it is a repro made to look old. It just does not look right to me?

Lew

Rick · 27th May 2007, 01:04 AM

I think you may be correct Lew; anyway, the lower right hand quadrant looks more like a Mermaid than an anchor to me.

(standard disclaimer)
YMMV .

Henk · 27th May 2007, 09:22 AM

It is indeed a knights head above the coat of arms. The writing 1501 must be the date.
Unfortunately I must agree with Lew. It is a crudely made repro. A dagger of such age, even preserved very well, looks quite different.

kronckew · 27th May 2007, 10:17 AM

the incised lines look a bit crisp to me for a blade that was so corroded, besides being a bit crude....

on my oldest blade, an 1814 dated pedang the incision lines are more worn and rounded, and a few centuries later and do not show the tool marks of the graver tool.....

galvano · 27th May 2007, 11:05 AM

A friend entrusted this blade to me.
He does not know anything with the weapons.
He asked me my opinion.
It appears old.
But I do not know sufficiently.
Obviously, I accept very critical.

Yannis · 27th May 2007, 06:07 PM

I think it is an old blade but not 500 years old. Maybe 30 to 50 years. Or it could be from this "historismus" of late 19th century. Mostly I see it like a bladesmith's game to make something it looks medieval.

It is too much for the fake market, they make them more simple and more rusty. It is also too little for the real thing, if ever was a thing like this in the real world.

A bladesmith who can do all this weird work on a blade can do a straight fuller, but it looks he does not care, dont you think?

26th May 2007, 12:48 PM	#1
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	blade I believe that it is an old blade. Which is your opinion? It is written 1501. date? Overall length 26 cm. Length of the blade 17,5 cm. Attached Images

27th May 2007, 11:05 AM	#9
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	hello A friend entrusted this blade to me. He does not know anything with the weapons. He asked me my opinion. It appears old. But I do not know sufficiently. Obviously, I accept very critical.

26th May 2007, 01:36 PM	#2
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Galvano, Funny things you dig up, did you notice that the decoration is on the left side of the blade, not on the right side where it would normally be, so maybe the user was left handed? I can’t help you much with the coat-of-arms, but the top left square looks like a tower, the square to the right is the colour purple, the left bottom square is the blue, but what the square to the right is supposed to be, is more than I can tell you.

26th May 2007, 05:53 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY INTERESTING BLADE I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING A COAT OF ARMS CRUDELY CUT INTO A BLADE BEFORE. I SUSPECT THE CARVING AT THE TOP IS SOME SORT OF BIRD, PERHAPS A PHEONIX OR PEACOCK. THE CARVEING ON THE LOWER RIGHT ALSO HAS ME STUMPED?

26th May 2007, 10:26 PM	#4
CourseEight Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 222	It's like a Rorschach test! I see above the coat of arms a knight's head, like this. In the lower right quadrant I see an anchor, but that's totally a guess.

26th May 2007, 10:38 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Why would you put your coat of arms on such a crudely made dagger? My guess is that it is a repro made to look old. It just does not look right to me? Lew

27th May 2007, 01:04 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,288	I think you may be correct Lew; anyway, the lower right hand quadrant looks more like a Mermaid than an anchor to me. (standard disclaimer) YMMV .

27th May 2007, 09:22 AM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	It is indeed a knights head above the coat of arms. The writing 1501 must be the date. Unfortunately I must agree with Lew. It is a crudely made repro. A dagger of such age, even preserved very well, looks quite different.

27th May 2007, 10:17 AM	#8
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,170	the incised lines look a bit crisp to me for a blade that was so corroded, besides being a bit crude.... on my oldest blade, an 1814 dated pedang the incision lines are more worn and rounded, and a few centuries later and do not show the tool marks of the graver tool.....

27th May 2007, 06:07 PM	#10
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	I think it is an old blade but not 500 years old. Maybe 30 to 50 years. Or it could be from this "historismus" of late 19th century. Mostly I see it like a bladesmith's game to make something it looks medieval. It is too much for the fake market, they make them more simple and more rusty. It is also too little for the real thing, if ever was a thing like this in the real world. A bladesmith who can do all this weird work on a blade can do a straight fuller, but it looks he does not care, dont you think?