Keris For Comment

David · 8th November 2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

David, your collection is twice the size of mine; it might be a tough sell for my Lady to convince your Lady .

I also got this and a 7 keris ploncon.

You only turn 60 once you know ..............

Maybe i just need to wait another 11 years....old man.

I understand your wanting to concentrate on the blade and agree that it is, indeed, the heart of the matter, but i also like to view the keris first as an ensemble as i believe this is important to the overall appreciation of the keris and it's sociological context. It is the way the keris wuld first be seen in a public setting. It helps to put the keris in perspective.

Rick · 8th November 2006, 03:51 PM

Enjoy those 11 years David.

Life doesn't end at 60; it just gets shorter.

Anyway, cloudy here today so here is the ensemble taken with flash.

BluErf · 11th November 2006, 02:41 AM

Hmmm... anyone noticed that Yogya ukirans are usually better carved than Solo ones. That is not to say the best examples from either region is better than the other, but on the average, Yogya ukirans tend to turn up better carved. Maybe because there are more tukangs out there trying to make a quick buck off Solo keris forms than Yogya keris forms.

So is there a name to this dapur? It certainly looks very different from the run-of-the-mill tilam upih.

Rick · 11th November 2006, 03:53 AM

Hi Kai Wee, from the Seller this keris is classified as Sri Manganti, a Surakarta sub classification. I think the pamor lies somewhere between wos wutah and kulit semangko; most likely it is an early 19thC. piece and still has a fairly substantial blade.
The dress is fairly nice and older but nothing to knock your socks off; after all it is the blade that is the heart of the piece.
This is one of only a few old pieces that I have, they seem to be hard to come by in Jawa these days; real ones that is.

BluErf · 12th November 2006, 12:29 PM

Thanks Rick. I always thought the 'real McCoys' are the muted but graceful ones that we grow to like.

8th November 2006, 03:51 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Enjoy those 11 years David. Life doesn't end at 60; it just gets shorter. Anyway, cloudy here today so here is the ensemble taken with flash. Attached Images

11th November 2006, 02:41 AM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hmmm... anyone noticed that Yogya ukirans are usually better carved than Solo ones. That is not to say the best examples from either region is better than the other, but on the average, Yogya ukirans tend to turn up better carved. Maybe because there are more tukangs out there trying to make a quick buck off Solo keris forms than Yogya keris forms. So is there a name to this dapur? It certainly looks very different from the run-of-the-mill tilam upih.

11th November 2006, 03:53 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Hi Kai Wee, from the Seller this keris is classified as Sri Manganti, a Surakarta sub classification. I think the pamor lies somewhere between wos wutah and kulit semangko; most likely it is an early 19thC. piece and still has a fairly substantial blade. The dress is fairly nice and older but nothing to knock your socks off; after all it is the blade that is the heart of the piece. This is one of only a few old pieces that I have, they seem to be hard to come by in Jawa these days; real ones that is.

12th November 2006, 12:29 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Thanks Rick. I always thought the 'real McCoys' are the muted but graceful ones that we grow to like.