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Old 17th October 2006, 12:07 PM   #1
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I only see 2 pakayuns with the middle carved and you now this is very old style the one in your hands and mine
Ben,

You forgot about the third one, shown in Shelford's article.
Let's see who will find it?

Vandoo,

I think the resemblance on the Batak swords in this case is coincidental.
Those features, isolated, are present in several other areas as well and I haven't seen any Pakayun yet with a trade blade.
Also I haven't seen proof of that Bataks and Muruts had any direct cultural exchange.
Some Batak blades were influenced by the Portuguese however who also visited the Western coast of Borneo.
But I haven't read about any major influence on the Muruts from the Portuguese?
Instead Chinese traders had more early contact with them.

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Old 17th October 2006, 11:55 PM   #2
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Hi Bill yes take a good look at the Handle s the one you have to look for is
long brass collar and also if they have a scabbard it need to be one with carving on it

That s why I post these so people can see what they have to look like there are not so many pakayuns to compare

Hi Vandoo These blade forms are different from the Batak ones
it is like Michael says
also the muruts was a little group
And also thank to you I could make my pakayun collection
completer with an nice piece
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Old 24th October 2006, 04:49 PM   #3
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old Murut pic did get it from Michael
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