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I've wanted one of these for a while, especially after reading the book "Naga Path". Finally bid enough on Ebay to get a fair example. Carrying loop broken, but otherwise complete. Supposedly picked up by a soldier in Burma in WWII. (aren't they all?) Handle wrapping covered in pitch. The spine and top half of the blade is coated with paint, or black pitch. Any info appreciated.
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Nice dao ![]() Congrats Lew |
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It's a nice dao. It’s not necessarily Naga. There’s a tendency to lump together as ‘Naga’ many of the weapons of the hills of India’s northeast. That form of dao appears to originate with the Kachin/Jingpho and the Khamti but is found among the Lisu, Eastern (northeastern) Naga, and others. In general, the Naga had limited access to iron/steel and often purchased it from outsiders, including the people of the Assam plains, English tea planters (famously using old hoe blades), but for metalworking and the creation and trade of dao blades, eastern tribes like the Kalyo-Kengyu and Konyak seem to have been foremost. But most Nagas carried rather differently shaped daos; this type seems to be fairly rare in photos at least. On average, Naga dao blades look cruder than the typical Kachin dao as well. It seems that much technological innovation among the Nagas came from the east, including crossbows.
Kachin/Khamti-type daos have flared pommels. It seems that on many Kachin and Khamti daos, at least, the pommel cap is of ivory, with Khamti examples often having squared-off ends of the ‘flare’ (similar to the hilts of some Adi and Mishmi long knives). Other examples often have plainer, more rounded hilts/pommels of all wood. This could indicate that it belonged to a different people or was made for harder or more utilitarian function or represents some simplification over time or even wartime scarcity of materials (I too have one that I am convinced is a simple WWII bring-back, likely from Burma). One type of Kachin-type dao blade is pattern-welded in the manner of many Tibetan sword blades. Written sources and photos would suggest that they could be found in the general area where these people above meet, perhaps in northernmost Burma, around the Dhemaji, Dibrugarh, Tinsukia and Sibsagar districts of Assam, the adjacent portion of Nagaland, the Tirap (Dirap) District of Arunachal Pradesh, and perhaps as far south and west as northern Cachar. Three varieties pictured below: one with ivory pommel cap and brass ferrule (grip wrap missing), probably late nineteenth century; one with lacquered wood grip with lozenge-section pommel, early/mid twentieth century; one long (28-1/4”/72 cm) example with fiber-wrapped hilt and “hairpin” laminated blade. |
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Lew,
I probably won't try to make a repair. I doubt that I could make it look original. Thanks. Dennee, Wow. Great information and superb pictures. Thanks so much. That's why I love this place. Steve |
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Here are two of mine the bottom one is axe like is it Kachin or Naga in your opinion? Lew |
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Hi Lou and Dennee.
Pardon my intruding but the weapons of this area are a particular interest, especially in relation to the Kachin (Singpho) who appear to have borrowed several styles of dao and dha from their neighbors -- the working dao of the Khamti, and perhaps the sword-dha from the longer versions used by the Assamese and nearby groups. Dennee has made some excellent points about the tribal differences and interactions in weapons styles of the N.E. India/Assam/Nagaland area. Lou's two examples highlight a couple of those differences. The top one being a Khamti/Kachin dao (worn in an open faced scabbard) and the bottom one is a typical Naga dao (worn in a wooden frog over the right buttock). An excellent reference for this area is Ian Heath's Armies of the 19th Century: Asia. 3. India's N.E. Frontier. Foundry Books, Guernsey. 1999. Ian. |
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Great post, Dennee, thank you.
![]() Ian, I agree that Lew's bottom example is a Naga axe dao. The blade/handle proportions are a bit unusual to my eye. |
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Ian is, of course, correct. The bottom one is Naga as suggested by the longer haft and its consistent section--usually round, sometimes rounded square, etc., but while the Naga haft may taper, there is usually no pronounced flare or distinct pommel--except for on some Kalyo-Kengyu and Chang almost-all-steel examples. Naga hafts are usually longer than the blade or head, although there are later examples in which the reverse is true. Naga hafts may be decorated with dyed goat hair, but they usually don't have a distinct, wrapped grip as do the Kachin type (although one of the photos in Jacobs's book shows a Naga dao haft with a pair of plaited rings at the grip). Naga daos simply have a rattan wrapping to hold the haft around the base/tang of the blade. I have sometimes thought that while the Kachin/Khamti type might rightly be called "dao" ("sword"), perhaps we should refer to Naga edged weapons as simply axes because of the differences between them. Lew's Naga example is perhaps the closest in form to the Kachin/Khamti type and yet there are all the differences cited above as well as in the blade shape. The latter has a pronounced concave back to the blade and more or less straight edge and the former typically has curved edge and spine (and often a raised bead near and parallel to the spine on the same side of the blade as the ground edge). And while both are clearly chopping weapons, Lew's Naga weapon really shows that these were both weapons and, even more important, tools. There are a lot that have clearly been used a great deal and re-sharpened. I have seen the Kachin/Khamti type with dings in the blade, but I haven't seen one with such signs of use, suggesting that some of these, at least, were closer to pure weapons and status symbols (as might be suggested by the more fragile ivory pieces on some), at least within, say, the past century and a half. Of course, Naga blades are deeper to begin with, with the edge representing a smaller proportion of the depth of the blade. The chisel-ground edge of the Kachin dao, while it varies somewhat from blade to blade and within the length of a single blade, can be nearly half the width (or depth) of the blade, but is generally about a full third.
Sorry, I am trying to really qualify all my statements because of the many variations and undoubtedly changes over time--and because of the severe limits of my knowledge and observations. |
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Here are a couple references to Kachin dha that I have found.
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Both Hanson and Anderson describe the use of the dha by the Kachin, both functionally and ritually (they are used as debt objects, for example, and in oath-taking ceremonies). |
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Great information and beautiful examples!
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This is nice to see. I have not seen the use of the black iron scale for decorative contrast on these before. You could add a picture on the thread, black and white blades, I started some weeks ago. I have a dao with punched dots as decoration where some have an etched pattern in imitation of folded steel, there is also this strange design.
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THE DESIGN LOOKS LIKE A LEOPARD LAYING ON ITS BACK WITH ITS FEET IN THE AIR. IT WOULD BE ON ITS FEET IF LOOKED AT THE OTHER WAY
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