Achenese 'Roedoïh' & 'Tjot Jang' / silver & suasa

Maurice · 14th November 2024, 07:53 PM

Just for sharing these Achenese oldies...

kino · 14th November 2024, 08:17 PM

I take it that one is a Roedoïh & the other a Tjot Jang.
To my untrained eyes they look the same. Can you please point out the differences.
I like the octagonal suasa ferrule.
Thanks for sharing

Maurice · 14th November 2024, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kino

I take it that one is a Roedoïh & the other a Tjot Jang.
To my untrained eyes they look the same. Can you please point out the differences.
I like the octagonal suasa ferrule.
Thanks for sharing

The difference is the shape of the blade.
The one with silver ferrule is a Roedoïh, and the one with suasa ferrule is a Tjot Jang (cojang).

Maurice · 14th November 2024, 08:34 PM

Both sides of the Roedoïh (rudus) are partly hollow grounded, which is resulting that there are clearly ribs visible along the spine and cutting edge. Along the spine, there is always a shallow groove.

The Tjot jang (Cojang) has no grooves and no 'swollen' ribs along the sides of the blade.

(Partially translated from the text written by P. Vermeiren, about the Christoffel collection)

kino · 16th November 2024, 01:14 AM

Thanks Maurice.

Maurice · 16th November 2024, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kino

Thanks Maurice.

You're welcome Albert
.

Sajen · 16th November 2024, 11:28 AM

Hi Maurice,

Two very nice swords, congrats! How long are they?

For comparison my rudus with brass ferrule, 81,5 cm long.

Regards,
Detlef

Maurice · 16th November 2024, 01:16 PM

Hi Detlef,

The one with silver ferrule is 79 cm long, and the one with the suassa ferrule is 73,5cm.

I do have another rudus with the same length of 82 cm as yours. But that one is rather simple. No metal ferrule like these examples.

The one with brass collar you have is a very nice one! I hope to add one in my collection once.

Sajen · 16th November 2024, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Hi Detlef,

The one with silver ferrule is 79 cm long, and the one with the suassa ferrule is 73,5cm.

I do have another rudus with the same length of 82 cm as yours. But that one is rather simple. No metal ferrule like these examples.

The one with brass collar you have is a very nice one! I hope to add one in my collection once.

Thanks Maurice! Sadly I've sold my co jangs so I am looking for a nice one and for a rudus with a cangge gliwang handle.

Regards,
Detlef

Maurice · 16th November 2024, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Thanks Maurice! Sadly I've sold my co jangs so I am looking for a nice one and for a rudus with a cangge gliwang handle.

Regards,
Detlef

Here is my (uncleaned) Roedoïh.
And with 'oellèë tjangge gliwang'.
81,5 cm (just measured

)

14th November 2024, 07:53 PM	#1
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,352	Achenese 'Roedoïh' & 'Tjot Jang' / silver & suasa Just for sharing these Achenese oldies... Attached Images

14th November 2024, 08:34 PM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,352	Both sides of the Roedoïh (rudus) are partly hollow grounded, which is resulting that there are clearly ribs visible along the spine and cutting edge. Along the spine, there is always a shallow groove. The Tjot jang (Cojang) has no grooves and no 'swollen' ribs along the sides of the blade. (Partially translated from the text written by P. Vermeiren, about the Christoffel collection) Last edited by Maurice; 14th November 2024 at 08:47 PM.

16th November 2024, 11:28 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,793	Hi Maurice, Two very nice swords, congrats! How long are they? For comparison my rudus with brass ferrule, 81,5 cm long. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

14th November 2024, 08:17 PM	#2
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,007	I take it that one is a Roedoïh & the other a Tjot Jang. To my untrained eyes they look the same. Can you please point out the differences. I like the octagonal suasa ferrule. Thanks for sharing

16th November 2024, 01:14 AM	#5
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,007	Thanks Maurice.

16th November 2024, 01:16 PM	#8
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,352	Hi Detlef, The one with silver ferrule is 79 cm long, and the one with the suassa ferrule is 73,5cm. I do have another rudus with the same length of 82 cm as yours. But that one is rather simple. No metal ferrule like these examples. The one with brass collar you have is a very nice one! I hope to add one in my collection once.