Revolutionary War to Federalist period cutlass

M ELEY · Today, 04:50 PM

My newest acquisition from the Shanendoah region of Virginia not too far from the Chesapeake Bay. Here we have an excellent representation of a primitive American-made cutlass which I'm estimating from 1780-1810 era. It is a blacksmith product, of course, ersatz-constructed probably in a small quantity for a naval or merchant/privateer vessel. The blade is a brute! measuring 28" long (typical of cutlass/hangers of this time versus the much longer horseman's sabers) and nearly a fourth of an inch thick! Definately the heaviest sword I've ever owned and the blade unfullered (again typical of American swords of this early period). The point is a classic clip, a fassionable thing with cutlasses. I'm thinking it might have started out life as a massive horseman's blade purposely cut down to this point (I truly can't imagine how heavy it would have been in its original full length!

The blade is cantered sharply to the hilt, a design I'm assuming was believed to help in the swing/impact of such a weapon. The blade is still very sharp and with it's weight, it could easily sever a limb! Cantered blades became much more prominant in the early 19th century, with Nathan Starr's naval model and the Virginia Manufactuary swords ca. 1808, but there are clear examples of earlier Rev War period types with cantering to the blades.

The grip is a plain wood core pattern with great patina and some worming. This handle is original to the piece in its remaking, as the peened tang at the end of the primitive sheet iron knuckle bow looks period with old patina.

For comparison types, please refer to George Neumann's 'Swords and Blades of the American Revolution". 68S primitive guard with sheet knuckle bow. 72S American hanger with thick unfullered blade and slight clip point. 77S another primitive type with single bar guard, rounded core wood grip. 79S simple flat stirrup sheet metal guard with slight cantering. 94S European example with clipped point to emphasize the popularity of this emerging style.149S Another clipped point English version, 172S a squared iron counterguard/knuckle bow, 188S simple flat bent metal knuckle bow with cantered blade. 191S A great cantered blade example with sheet knuckle bow. 304 and 305S both cutlass-types with no fullers, sheet knuckle bows. Note the second example's thick blade! 309S No fullers and very cantered. 315S also no fullers, cantered blade and with a clipped point. Finally, we have 374/375/380/381 all cutlasses of the era with the sheet iron guards, short quillon and no fullers. 368S This example has the nearly identical wood core grip as mine.

M ELEY · Today, 05:10 PM

Some might call these essatz types 'uglu ducklings', but I love them. Plus, I think it is monumentally important to consider when it is appropriate for an authentic item to be piece-meal made. If I found a sword with a ca. 1850 Mexican blade with a M1903 Patton guard, a Mason's sword grip, and a m1860 Staff & Field officer's sword pommel, I'd stay away! These put-together essatz types are still great wall ahngers, but have no narrative in the weapons/military world.

The exceptions are in areas of history where desparation and lack of resources led individuals to find ways to make appropriate weapons. These periods of history include the colonists during the American Revolution (who either had to use a much earlier pre-war type, steal one off of the enemy or have one made by a local blacksmith). Other ersatz wepons can be seen in colonial Spanish regions and encompass the so-called espadas (Jim McDougall, that's your que!

. Actually, Jim and I have discussed this present sword I'm posting indepth). Likewise, the Confederate States were also in a tight situation in regards to armament and many had to rely on primative examples 'made in the barn'.

Atop of all this, where there was scarcity of weapons and manufacture of local items, we have the navy and merchant class to consider! With these folks, there began a new definition of "primative"! Unlike a field regiment or platoon of foot soldiers, ships usually only required small batches of swords for either defence or privateering/boarding. Likewise, the naval powers were the last branch of the armed forces to start developing accepted patterns/models for their weaponry. Many had the attitude that the maritime types were not commonly used except in the rare instances of boarding, so why not make them as 'munitions-grade' as possible. Thus, we get these plain Jane types that are still so amazing as they are small-batch and no two are exactly alike!

M ELEY · Today, 05:17 PM

I guess what I'm saying is, these types are not to everyone's taste and I get that. As a collector of maritime items, though. these really speak to me. They are not shiny and clean. No officer or captain probably handled them. They are simple tools of war probably stored in barrels rolled up onto the deck during raids or defence or perhaps stored in a rack. They are cumbersome, deadly and I wouldn't want to get struck in the skull with one, that's for sure!

Here's a site with a few examples of American Revolutionary War types of colonial manufacture. They are almost folk-art in a way!

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/...?auctionid=560

Today, 04:50 PM	#1
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,092	Revolutionary War to Federalist period cutlass My newest acquisition from the Shanendoah region of Virginia not too far from the Chesapeake Bay. Here we have an excellent representation of a primitive American-made cutlass which I'm estimating from 1780-1810 era. It is a blacksmith product, of course, ersatz-constructed probably in a small quantity for a naval or merchant/privateer vessel. The blade is a brute! measuring 28" long (typical of cutlass/hangers of this time versus the much longer horseman's sabers) and nearly a fourth of an inch thick! Definately the heaviest sword I've ever owned and the blade unfullered (again typical of American swords of this early period). The point is a classic clip, a fassionable thing with cutlasses. I'm thinking it might have started out life as a massive horseman's blade purposely cut down to this point (I truly can't imagine how heavy it would have been in its original full length! The blade is cantered sharply to the hilt, a design I'm assuming was believed to help in the swing/impact of such a weapon. The blade is still very sharp and with it's weight, it could easily sever a limb! Cantered blades became much more prominant in the early 19th century, with Nathan Starr's naval model and the Virginia Manufactuary swords ca. 1808, but there are clear examples of earlier Rev War period types with cantering to the blades. The grip is a plain wood core pattern with great patina and some worming. This handle is original to the piece in its remaking, as the peened tang at the end of the primitive sheet iron knuckle bow looks period with old patina. For comparison types, please refer to George Neumann's 'Swords and Blades of the American Revolution". 68S primitive guard with sheet knuckle bow. 72S American hanger with thick unfullered blade and slight clip point. 77S another primitive type with single bar guard, rounded core wood grip. 79S simple flat stirrup sheet metal guard with slight cantering. 94S European example with clipped point to emphasize the popularity of this emerging style.149S Another clipped point English version, 172S a squared iron counterguard/knuckle bow, 188S simple flat bent metal knuckle bow with cantered blade. 191S A great cantered blade example with sheet knuckle bow. 304 and 305S both cutlass-types with no fullers, sheet knuckle bows. Note the second example's thick blade! 309S No fullers and very cantered. 315S also no fullers, cantered blade and with a clipped point. Finally, we have 374/375/380/381 all cutlasses of the era with the sheet iron guards, short quillon and no fullers. 368S This example has the nearly identical wood core grip as mine. Attached Images

Today, 05:10 PM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,092	Cutlass continued Some might call these essatz types 'uglu ducklings', but I love them. Plus, I think it is monumentally important to consider when it is appropriate for an authentic item to be piece-meal made. If I found a sword with a ca. 1850 Mexican blade with a M1903 Patton guard, a Mason's sword grip, and a m1860 Staff & Field officer's sword pommel, I'd stay away! These put-together essatz types are still great wall ahngers, but have no narrative in the weapons/military world. The exceptions are in areas of history where desparation and lack of resources led individuals to find ways to make appropriate weapons. These periods of history include the colonists during the American Revolution (who either had to use a much earlier pre-war type, steal one off of the enemy or have one made by a local blacksmith). Other ersatz wepons can be seen in colonial Spanish regions and encompass the so-called espadas (Jim McDougall, that's your que!. Actually, Jim and I have discussed this present sword I'm posting indepth). Likewise, the Confederate States were also in a tight situation in regards to armament and many had to rely on primative examples 'made in the barn'. Atop of all this, where there was scarcity of weapons and manufacture of local items, we have the navy and merchant class to consider! With these folks, there began a new definition of "primative"! Unlike a field regiment or platoon of foot soldiers, ships usually only required small batches of swords for either defence or privateering/boarding. Likewise, the naval powers were the last branch of the armed forces to start developing accepted patterns/models for their weaponry. Many had the attitude that the maritime types were not commonly used except in the rare instances of boarding, so why not make them as 'munitions-grade' as possible. Thus, we get these plain Jane types that are still so amazing as they are small-batch and no two are exactly alike! Attached Images

Today, 05:17 PM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,092	More photos... I guess what I'm saying is, these types are not to everyone's taste and I get that. As a collector of maritime items, though. these really speak to me. They are not shiny and clean. No officer or captain probably handled them. They are simple tools of war probably stored in barrels rolled up onto the deck during raids or defence or perhaps stored in a rack. They are cumbersome, deadly and I wouldn't want to get struck in the skull with one, that's for sure! Here's a site with a few examples of American Revolutionary War types of colonial manufacture. They are almost folk-art in a way! https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/...?auctionid=560 Attached Images