Bugis or Sumatran?

Sajen · Today, 03:17 PM

Want to read your opinion, is this keris Bugis or Sumatran? 37,5 cm complete.

David · Today, 03:23 PM

Can't it be both?

I certainly see this blade as having a Bugis type profile, but as i know you already know, the Bugis got around the archipelago quite a bit. When you say "Bugis" where are you expecting the blade to made?

Sajen · Today, 08:28 PM

Hello David,

Yes for sure! But I remember a thread where Dave Henkel has shown differents but I can't find it. When I remember correct the handle form and the gandar and atasan form can differ!?

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · Today, 08:49 PM

For me, culturally Bugis, but as to geographic point of blade and dress origin, I am unable to form an opinion.

Gustav · Today, 09:11 PM

The sheath looks like a typical Sulawesi Bugis sheath, hilt most likely is Sulawesi, blade looks a bit more like Sumatran Bugis, but, if original to sheath, likely is Sulawesi too. Well, the fit is not the most ideal one.

Today, 03:17 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,768	Bugis or Sumatran? Want to read your opinion, is this keris Bugis or Sumatran? 37,5 cm complete. Attached Images

Today, 03:23 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,119	Can't it be both? I certainly see this blade as having a Bugis type profile, but as i know you already know, the Bugis got around the archipelago quite a bit. When you say "Bugis" where are you expecting the blade to made?

Today, 08:28 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,768	Hello David, Yes for sure! But I remember a thread where Dave Henkel has shown differents but I can't find it. When I remember correct the handle form and the gandar and atasan form can differ!? Regards, Detlef

Today, 08:49 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,888	For me, culturally Bugis, but as to geographic point of blade and dress origin, I am unable to form an opinion.

Today, 09:11 PM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,247	The sheath looks like a typical Sulawesi Bugis sheath, hilt most likely is Sulawesi, blade looks a bit more like Sumatran Bugis, but, if original to sheath, likely is Sulawesi too. Well, the fit is not the most ideal one.