Moro Bugis Sewar

[Pendita65]

Hi Detlef,

thank you for your message, and yes i allready found out that it would be a Malay Keris. For the other Keris i can't see if there was ever been a cup underneath, the hilt is square and has chamfered sides, would the cup be square too? I didn't took the hilt from the keris. And i hope someone is able to show me several pics how the asang asang is connected to the keris.

Regards, Martin

And you might be right Detlef, for using black horn for the tip of the scabbard.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Pendita65

..., the hilt is square and has chamfered sides, would the cup be square too?

Hi Martin,

Yes, the cup will be square too.

Regards,
Detlef

[Gustav]

Well, there are perhaps Moro blades too dressed as Malay Sundang, but there are also genuine Malay Sundang with Asang-Asang. May be it's true for a later period, but to say, Malay Sundang never had Asang-Asang - that's simply wrong.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Well, there are perhaps Moro blades too dressed as Malay Sundang, but there are also genuine Malay Sundang with Asang-Asang. May be it's true for a later period, but to say, Malay Sundang never had Asang-Asang - that's simply wrong.

Hello Gustav,

I've written: The Malay kris may never have any asang asang, many Malay kris don't have any clamps. But the hilt missing a cup in down I guess.

And I've shown pics from older threads to show which cup could be missing and there are Malay sundangs with and without "asang-asang".
I never claimed that Malay sundangs never had asang-asang.

Regards,
Detlef

[Gustav]

Hello Detlef,

Understood. I was confused by the word "never".

Regards,
Gustav

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Understood. I was confused by the word "never".

No problem Gustav!

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Well, there are perhaps Moro blades too dressed as Malay Sundang, but there are also genuine Malay Sundang with Asang-Asang. May be it's true for a later period, but to say, Malay Sundang never had Asang-Asang - that's simply wrong.

Agree completely with you. There are typical Malayan sundang with asang asang/baka baka. I think that is what Detlef was also saying.