Figural !

[milandro]

Originally Posted by HughChen

hilt

Are you sure this is a Kris hilt?

I think that this may be a the hilt ( or rather the handle) of a Betelnut chisel or cutter

they are generally more ornate and have often this truncated cone shape

these were sold (terminated auction, therefore allowed) and in my view are similar

[David]

I am in agreement with Milandro. More likely a Betel Nut tool.

[A. G. Maisey]

Yes, pelecok.

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by milandro

Are you sure this is a Kris hilt?

I think that this may be a the hilt ( or rather the handle) of a Betelnut chisel or cutter

they are generally more ornate and have often this truncated cone shape

these were sold (terminated auction, therefore allowed) and in my view are similar

Originally Posted by David

I am in agreement with Milandro. More likely a Betel Nut tool.

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes, pelecok.

I'm not sure. We thought it was a hilt. Maybe the Betelnut chisel and Keris sometimes share a handle by native users.

[A. G. Maisey]

No, I'm sorry HughChen, but a keris hilt & a pelecok are two entirely different things & they do not share hilts. The pelecok is a tool, the keris is a socio-religious icon & a weapon.

There can be no doubt about this.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by HughChen

I'm not sure. We thought it was a hilt. Maybe the Betelnut chisel and Keris sometimes share a handle by native users.

Hello Chen,

I am with the others, it's a handle for a betel pestle, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=betel

Regards,
Detlef

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

No, I'm sorry HughChen, but a keris hilt & a pelecok are two entirely different things & they do not share hilts. The pelecok is a tool, the keris is a socio-religious icon & a weapon.

There can be no doubt about this.

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Chen,

I am with the others, it's a handle for a betel pestle, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=betel

Regards,
Detlef

Thank you for correcting of my misunderstanding. Based on those pics,T think maybe this horn one is also not a hilt, while the wooden one is a Balinese hilt.

[David]

Originally Posted by HughChen

Thank you for correcting of my misunderstanding. Based on those pics,T think maybe this horn one is also not a hilt, while the wooden one is a Balinese hilt.

I'm not sure what in Detlef's link gave you that impression. IMO this horn figural hilt is indeed a keris hilt.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

I'm not sure what in Detlef's link gave you that impression. IMO this horn figural hilt is indeed a keris hilt.

Hi David,

I guess Chen goes with the ferrule!

Regards,
Detlef

[David]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi David,

I guess Chen goes with the ferrule!

Regards,
Detlef

Oh, my bad actually. I completely missed the small photo at the top of the page.
Frankly i'm not sure what that is a hilt for, but yes, the ferrule on that hilt would be unusual for a Balinese keris hilt.