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Old 22nd August 2024, 01:58 PM   #1
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In all my years of collecting (just a few decades) as much more historian than collector, the swords I acquired were dark, often slightly damaged, but intact and reflected the toll of time and whatever rough handling they experienced.

The most exciting were those with apparent battle damage (one yataghan had taken a ball at the fittings of the hilt), some were clearly battlefield pickups and relics. These I would NOT touch or 'clean up' obviously.
The only care I usually afford a weapon is to stop active rust or corrosion and apply wood and leather care as required to stabilize .

I was often chided for buying these 'dogs dinner' weapons(as they were called by scoffing others often), but these had stories to tell and THEY HAVE!
Years of research often revealed amazing details of where and what these weapons experienced.

This would NOT have been possible had they been ' given new life' by being dismantled and hopelessly altered.

In a trip to Athens many years ago, as I walked through the stately ruin of the Parthenon, I quipped, 'a little work here and there, maybe some fresh paint' .....the gasps around me were telling. Imagine! New life?

All of these swords I acquired were rough (lucky for me with my meager resources)......but honestly.......my EXACT thoughts were that I was rescuing them from the very fate of this old nimcha! They have remained in my charge ever since, safe from being dishonored with the removal of their well earned wear.

Im glad this thread came up, as it is a topic that perhaps need to be more addressed, and again I regret having to do so at Jacenty's expense, as I think he meant well, and not to deceive (but many do).
I rest my case.
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Old 23rd August 2024, 09:56 PM   #2
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Grip wrong. Crossguard badly made. This blade would not have been used on a Central or Eastern European sabre of the 17th century. This Frankensword fits the ethical standards of its owner.
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Old 24th August 2024, 10:21 AM   #3
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Ahhhhhh 😵*💫😵*💫😵*💫
Why, just why….
Nimcha was nice looking, now it is to throw away in a trash can…
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Old 28th August 2024, 10:00 AM   #4
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I am sending detailed photos of the handle of this sabre.
The brass is broken, with hammer marks. The hole in the hilt is too big and someone tried to fit it with a hammer. The hilt must have been from another sabre.
The handle, made of rhino horn, is chipped and cracked. It crumbles easily.
If these parts were in better condition I would certainly not have reworked this sabre.

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Old 28th August 2024, 10:25 AM   #5
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Grip wrong. Crossguard badly made. This blade would not have been used on a Central or Eastern European sabre of the 17th century. This Frankensword fits the ethical standards of its owner.
Original Cossack sabres can only be found on battlefields in Ukraine. They look as in the attached photos.
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I believe that my adaptation does not deviate from the originals.
In the 17th and 18th centuries, there were hundreds if not thousands of craftsmen in Poland and Ukraine - blacksmiths and sabre makers who made battle sabres and each one was an individual, unique product.
I therefore disagree with your assessment.
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Old 28th August 2024, 05:44 PM   #6
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Original Cossack sabres can only be found on battlefields in Ukraine.
No. And those swords are not called Cossack sabres.

You say the following:

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They look as in the attached photos.
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...each one was an individual, unique product.
I therefore disagree with your assessment.
So do they look all like the one from your photos? (No) Does yours look like the one on the photos? (No) Can one be sure from the photos that the sabre shown is original (No)

Nevermind, that Nimcha is already trashed - nothing left to argue about.
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