An interesting Bali keris for sharing

[Sajen]

More pics.

[HughChen]

I have seen a similar one in China.

[David]

Originally Posted by HughChen

I have seen a similar one in China.

The only thing that is similar in this keris you saw in China is the hilt. The rest of this keris (blade and sheath) is Javanese and this is a mismatched ensemble, possibly thrown together by an uninformed dealer or collector.

[David]

Detlef, it's a bit too dirty to tell in the photos, but, do you think the sheath material her is ivory?
Its seems like a nice keris that needs a little bit of TLC.
I have one with a similar dhapur (though mine is 11 luk). Luk are less deep on mine with a wider blade, but all the same ricikan at the base of there blade. Also a similar "Bayu" hulu, but a completely different style sarung.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by David

Detlef, it's a bit too dirty to tell in the photos, but, do you think the sheath material her is ivory?
Its seems like a nice keris that needs a little bit of TLC.
I have one with a similar dhapur (though mine is 11 luk). Luk are less deep on mine with a wider blade, but all the same ricikan at the base of there blade. Also a similar "Bayu" hulu, but a completely different style sarung.

Hello David,

I was the second highest bidder on this keris. It was rather cheap but sadly I am not able to bid higher for the moment. And yes, I guess that the cross piece is from ivory, at least I don't see any bubble you can see by some fake hilts from some sort of plastic we all have seen before and the overall condition and materials let me think that all is old and original, late 19th to early 20th century would be my guess. Sadly most of the gold wash is gone.
And yes, this keris needs some TLC.

Regards,
Detlef

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello David,

I was the second highest bidder on this keris. It was rather cheap but sadly I am not able to bid higher for the moment. And yes, I guess that the cross piece is from ivory, at least I don't see any bubble you can see by some fake hilts from some sort of plastic we all have seen before and the overall condition and materials let me think that all is old and original, late 19th to early 20th century would be my guess. Sadly most of the gold wash is gone.
And yes, this keris needs some TLC.

Regards,
Detlef

Hello all,
Is this hlit also ivory? It's not as dark.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by HughChen

Hello all,
Is this hlit also ivory? It's not as dark.

I don't think that it's elephant ivory but not certain about the material. I would need to handle it.

Regards,
Detlef

[Gustav]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello David,

I was the second highest bidder on this keris. It was rather cheap but sadly I am not able to bid higher for the moment. And yes, I guess that the cross piece is from ivory, at least I don't see any bubble you can see by some fake hilts from some sort of plastic we all have seen before and the overall condition and materials let me think that all is old and original, late 19th to early 20th century would be my guess. Sadly most of the gold wash is gone.
And yes, this keris needs some TLC.

Regards,
Detlef

Detlef,

I doubt such carvings in th crosspiece were done until WWII, but when they were done, sometimes on old ivory crosspieces. I don't particularly like this kind of things, but that goes together with how "traditional" art developed in Bali.

If we compare blades of this Keris and David's, I would say, David's is easily four, five times more worth.

[HughChen]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Detlef,

I doubt such carvings in th crosspiece were done until WWII, but when they were done, sometimes on old ivory crosspieces. I don't particularly like this kind of things, but that goes together with how "traditional" art developed in Bali.

If we compare blades of this Keris and David's, I would say, David's is easily four, five times more worth.

Hello,Gustav

Why don't you like it?

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Gustav

Detlef,

I doubt such carvings in th crosspiece were done until WWII, but when they were done, sometimes on old ivory crosspieces. I don't particularly like this kind of things, but that goes together with how "traditional" art developed in Bali.

If we compare blades of this Keris and David's, I would say, David's is easily four, five times more worth.

Hello Gustav,

I agree with you that the keris from David is the better one and when I would get the chance to choose one I would take the one from David.
But my intention was to show this keris and not to compare it with others.
A similar one was shown in the publication shown in the pic.
I think that this style appears in the sec. quarter of the 20th century and is a legit type of Balinese keris style.

Regards,
Detlef