|
7th July 2024, 05:33 PM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: What is still UK
Posts: 5,800
|
It could be an Anglo Indian thing. Just that all the iron/steel rod core stuff I have handled has been African. However yes could be Indian come to think of it the metal work would fit that. A lot of Indian metal work had a Western feel even a lot of gothic revival imagery on metalwork trays and other artifact made for colonials and for export. The metal tip is heavy. I could be changing my mind on the origin. Although not a deadly arms length weapon in a close up situation not a lot of fun to be struck or poked in the face with.
|
1st September 2024, 03:57 PM | #2 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 480
|
US Antebellum
Hi All,
While searching the net for information about a completely unrelated subject (a vintage 24” Lufkin combination square), a number of sites selling so called “plantation canes” were provided courtesy of eBay tracking. Apparently, when I initially was searching the net about these canes for this thread, eBay was following my efforts and provided a number of sellers with these canes for sale. All of these sellers allege that these are US civil war era “plantation canes”. I did a search for "plantation cane" and found many sites offering them for sale. The items shown range in length from cane to swagger stick. Evidently, from what I read, they were used to beat slaves that had done something to displease their owners. Given the cane’s construction, I find this explanation as plausible as it is repugnant. Here is a typical seller’s site: https://www.bargainjohn.com/product/walking-stick-4/.. On another (but in a strangely related) note,, I know from past experience that any search involving “canes” will turn up various sites featuring attractive people of both sexes from teen to middle age being subjected to similar punishment. I wonder what eBay thought of that. Sincerely, RobT |
1st September 2024, 09:14 PM | #3 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: What is still UK
Posts: 5,800
|
Rob that is pretty fantastic, thank you. I knew it was a nasty thing but it has interest. Great to actually pin it down. It could be quite old. British plantation slavery was ended 1830 something off the top of my head. Would it be in use after?
. |
1st September 2024, 10:16 PM | #4 |
Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 480
|
Continued Use
Tim Simmons,
Slavery in the US didn’t completely end until 12/1865. Even after that, the socio-cultural and economic conditions remained largely unchanged. Blacks were free in name only and were for the most part faced with two choices. They could either work for their former masters for room and board plus almost non-existent wages or starve. It must also be understood that, throughout the country but most especially in the south, black individuals had virtually no protection from whites. If a white person wished to kill a black person for any reason, he or she was free to do so without fear of the slightest penalty. (The sport of coon hunting didn’t always mean going after small, furry animals.) Given the above realities, I would wager that the plantation canes were carried and used well after the civil war. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that they were still employed well into the 20th century, Sincerely, RobT |
2nd September 2024, 06:25 AM | #5 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: What is still UK
Posts: 5,800
|
British empire slavery ender 1807 but it could have been brought to the UK from the USA.
|
|
|