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Old 4th July 2024, 03:54 PM   #1
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The reason I am curious on the marks in the linear sequence on the blade rather than the usual makers name is they might have more esoteric meaning. Whether authentic or spuriously applied by German smiths,these are remarkably similar to some Milanese makers marks as well as some of the 'anchor' marks used by Toledo makers (i.e. Alonso Perez, late 16th, et al).
The others resemble some occult/magic markings which were often used in inscriptions, names etc. on blades by Toledo smiths (Wagner, 1967).

The Spanish method of swordplay was the mysterious system of 'destreza' or'the' Spanish Fight', (Aylward, 1945; Castle, 1885) which was based on geometric, mathematical, philosophical and occult principles. The weapon of choice was of course, the rapier, and while in the earlier years, very long blades were de riguer, however in time 'shorter' blades became favored (i.e. these 37" examples).

I think it may be possible that a series of marks similar to established ones used in Milan and Toledo on blades, coupled with magic type sigils might allude to a swordsmans knowledge and skills in destreza, and may have been applied in these sequences suggesting such esoteric connection.

Just thoughts.
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Old 19th July 2024, 12:49 PM   #2
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Default Toledo punch mark?

I have received the rapier.

As I suspected, it has a punch mark on the ricasso consistent with the Toledo marks.

Unfortunately, it is mostly covered by the langet and very difficult to observe.
Any advice as how can I reveal it or which swordsmith may be, would be welcomed.
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Old 22nd July 2024, 09:43 PM   #3
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Slip a sheet of paper in between the blade and langet and rub a pencil over the paper where the punch mark is?
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Old 25th July 2024, 07:03 PM   #4
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Slip a sheet of paper in between the blade and langet and rub a pencil over the paper where the punch mark is?
Interesting, but rubbing a pencil while exerting some pressure is hardly possible inside the cup and under the langet.

So I am thinking of oiling it, then apply a thin blade of putty on it and get the mould of the mark. Maybe it will work.
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