29th August 2023, 02:48 PM | #31 |
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29th August 2023, 10:24 PM | #32 |
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Yeah, these "river finds" are a bit of joke, but if enough people believe just about anything, well, that thing they believe in becomes true.
Culturally I think the significance is helping a few people to stay alive a bit longer, not all that easy to earn enough to keep body & soul together in some places. But on the subject of shonkdonkery in Indonesia, it is enough to say that if something can be faked, that can be done in Indonesia. This link has nothing at all to do with keris, but it is only a short article & it is worth reading through. http://www.ming-wrecks.com/Fakes.html I have known several people, not Indonesians, but living in Central Jawa, who lived very comfortably for many years by sending Indonesian faked items --- mostly porcelain, & often with barnacles attached --- to auction rooms & dealers all over the world. |
30th August 2023, 12:23 PM | #33 |
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whilst researching the Keris which are made to be sort of looking old (mostly ridiculously so). I came across a site which was writing a long story on how people should be careful with purchasing krises that are made to be look antique . The same site had a shop on line where there were several obviously " antiqued" bethoks. Not only but prices were exorbitant too
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12th May 2024, 10:04 AM | #34 |
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I have showed my modern bethok here some time ago, regardless of the fact that it didn't seem to gather much excitement, I still like it.
Its Dhapur seems to be dhapur Dhuwung at least judging but what I have seen from another modernly made kris. |
16th May 2024, 06:42 AM | #35 |
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For what it's worth I like it too Milandro. I thought that when you first shared it and I still feel the same way.
I suspect a lot of other viewers like it too, but with not much else to say about it. |
16th May 2024, 07:43 AM | #36 |
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Thanks, I appreciate your words, it is not so much that I expect validation (although I was somewhat surprised by the the reactions) but this time I simply wanted to submit an example of a VERY similar blade with all the data (including the thumb print of the Empu) especially about the dhapur
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