21st January 2024, 02:58 PM | #1 |
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Help with Identification-Naval Axe?
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I recently acquired this all iron, hand forged hatchet/axe. The head is 8 inches and overall length is 18 inches. It weighs 3 pounds. It came from upstate New York, Rochester/Lake Ontario region. Too heavy for a spike tomahawk (although common in that region) and I'm pretty sure this pre-dates crate axes. It also has a chisel/spike end and not a hammer end typically seen on crate axes. I am wonder whether a naval tool/axe given Lake Ontario's naval engagement history in War of 1812. Any comments would be appreciated. |
21st January 2024, 03:41 PM | #2 |
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Interesting old tool! I wonder if it might be a vintage ice harvesting axe? Not the ice axe for mountaineering but for cutting ice from frozen lakes for sale?
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21st January 2024, 03:52 PM | #3 |
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I've seen a lot of old ice harvesting hatchets. Not likely. blade profile is different along with chisel spike end.
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21st January 2024, 04:05 PM | #4 |
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From the wilds of Lake Ontario: I came, Ice Saw, I conquered!
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21st January 2024, 04:15 PM | #5 |
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21st January 2024, 05:14 PM | #6 | |
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Definitely a tool. Perhaps a roofing hammer or something that was used in the mines. |
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21st January 2024, 09:55 PM | #7 |
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Thank You. Does not resemble a roofing hammer. Thus, no hammer end and no nail pull.
Piece appears to be 18th century to me. Also, not aware of any mining in Rochester NY. |
22nd January 2024, 01:19 PM | #8 |
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It minds me of a mill pick but not quite the right shape. Their ax and adze are a little more wedge shaped in profile and shorter I believe. It is hard to get a sense of proportion, size, and overall shape from these pictures. The prybar handle is a later addition? Interesting in that it seems made for a very specific purpose. In its current configuration it would be good for pulling specimens out of mines. If I owned it that would be its purpose. Though I wouldn't want to swing it too much with that metal handle it makes my elbow hurt just looking at it.
Bob A I believe that is a hay knife, maybe it saw double duty. Here is a picture from the Antique Ice Tool Museum. This seems like a Miscellaneous tool. |
23rd January 2024, 10:58 AM | #9 |
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mgolab: Your hammer head has the general profile of a slater's hammer, but the all metal handle may be ill suited for that purpose--seems too heavy to wield for a day.
Bob: I'm pretty sure your tool is a hay knife and would not cut ice all that well. The one's shown by IP are what I saw used in Minnesota by the old timers. Nowadays ice augers and chain saws seem to have replaced a lot of the hand ice saws, at least for ice fishing and ice sculptures. |
23rd January 2024, 01:44 PM | #10 |
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Thanks Ian, but I'd have to disagree with you on that. Where is the hammer? It is a blade profile with a spike/chisel end. Hand forged. Someone else suggested that the head and haft were married at a later date, which makes sense looking at the eye profile.
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23rd January 2024, 04:28 PM | #11 |
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Seems like an interesting tool that should be moved to the Miscellaneous Forum.
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24th January 2024, 05:36 AM | #12 |
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Agree Gavin. Over it goes for further discussion.
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