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Old 3rd December 2023, 12:35 PM   #1
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It certainly looks like a jimpul to me. There is a specimen with a somewhat similar blade profile shown in Albert Zonneveld's book "Traditionele Wapens van Borneo - Deel III: Zwaarden en Messen" on page 84 (though with two "steps" in the profile of the tip and a few more decorations along the spine).
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Old 3rd December 2023, 01:04 PM   #2
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Thank you for your comment! Yes, this example is similar. But it's certainly not a classical jimpul.

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Old 3rd December 2023, 04:57 PM   #3
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As the two swords look rather similar to me, I'm not clear on why one would not be a "classical" jimpul.

It's also unclear to me which would be referred to as Classical. Could you please shed more light on the issue?
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Old 3rd December 2023, 05:20 PM   #4
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As the two swords look rather similar to me, I'm not clear on why one would not be a "classical" jimpul.

It's also unclear to me which would be referred to as Classical. Could you please shed more light on the issue?
Hello Bob,

I am not an expert by Dayak swords and sometimes it's difficult to name them correctly, see for example here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=jimpul

What I would call a classical jimpul look to the attached pictures taken from other threads.

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Old 3rd December 2023, 09:29 PM   #5
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Hello Detlef,

How about a Gayang ? Or a Tilang Kemarau ?
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Old 4th December 2023, 12:01 AM   #6
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Hello Detlef,

How about a Gayang ? Or a Tilang Kemarau ?
Hello Willem,

I've considered both, but I am quite unsure about them too, as there are differences between these types too. But as I said, I'm quite inexperienced with Borneo swords, so it's not for nothing that I asked for help!
What would you say?

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Old 4th December 2023, 10:44 AM   #7
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What sets these three (jimpul, gayang, tilang kamerau) apart? Is it to do with the tip shape? Curvature? Decorative elements?
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