A pair of little pistols for ID ... please

fernando · 24th November 2023, 01:42 PM

I have received a request from an acquaintance to try and ID a pair of little flintlock pistols of the turn off barrel type.
I guess this is quite a challenge; he has gone through all of his several books and had no result.

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corrado26 · 25th November 2023, 09:31 AM

He has the wrong books! French pistol made by gunmaker DUPIARD at Mâcon about 1790 and proofed at St. Etienne

fernando · 25th November 2023, 01:05 PM

Udo, your'e my man !!!. Thank you ever so much

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Raf · 25th November 2023, 01:47 PM

Another version. Maybe a bit earlier. Trying to look better quality than it is . One for the ladies pochet ?

fernando · 25th November 2023, 01:50 PM

The one i posted is small, but it comes as a pair; certainly not the pocket version.

Raf · 25th November 2023, 02:25 PM

Pochet's come in pairs.

fernando · 25th November 2023, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Raf

Pochet's come in pairs.

I was referring to pocket version. Did not realize you were referring to the gallicism pochette

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Raf · 25th November 2023, 02:45 PM

'Lucy Locket lost her pocket.'

corrado26 · 27th November 2023, 03:46 PM

The pistol in post 4 looks like its barrel has been cut of, at least the muzzle doesn't absolutely look as it should look normally!

Raf · 27th November 2023, 05:43 PM

Yes , I agree it looks odd but as you can see from attached it hasn't been cut down. The forend is chewed because the barrel pin lug had detached during its working life and the barrel was secured by an extemporary metal band. The fluted barrel is interesting as is the lack of provision for a ramrod. Maybe ladies were not expected to have to load their own pistols.

fernando · 27th November 2023, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Raf

... Maybe ladies were not expected to have to load their own pistols...

Raf · 27th November 2023, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Not sure what your point was . Given the fluted barrel and side plate best guess is it actually North Italian.
I would like to think a Venetian courtesan might have caried a pistol like this even if it wasn't of the finest quality. Thats the pistol not the girl.

fernando · 27th November 2023, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Raf

Not sure what your point was . Given the fluted barrel and side plate best guess is it actually North Italian.

I was only smiling to your saying that ladies are not expected to load their own pistols.
But speaking of little pistols with barrels "looking like they were cut off", here is one that i once owned.

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24th November 2023, 01:42 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	A pair of little pistols for ID ... please I have received a request from an acquaintance to try and ID a pair of little flintlock pistols of the turn off barrel type. I guess this is quite a challenge; he has gone through all of his several books and had no result. . Attached Images

25th November 2023, 01:47 PM	#4
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	Another version. Maybe a bit earlier. Trying to look better quality than it is . One for the ladies pochet ? Attached Images

27th November 2023, 05:43 PM	#10
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	Yes , I agree it looks odd but as you can see from attached it hasn't been cut down. The forend is chewed because the barrel pin lug had detached during its working life and the barrel was secured by an extemporary metal band. The fluted barrel is interesting as is the lack of provision for a ramrod. Maybe ladies were not expected to have to load their own pistols. Attached Images

25th November 2023, 09:31 AM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,205	He has the wrong books! French pistol made by gunmaker DUPIARD at Mâcon about 1790 and proofed at St. Etienne

25th November 2023, 01:05 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Udo, your'e my man !!!. Thank you ever so much .

25th November 2023, 01:50 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	The one i posted is small, but it comes as a pair; certainly not the pocket version.

25th November 2023, 02:25 PM	#6
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	Pochet's come in pairs.

25th November 2023, 02:45 PM	#8
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	'Lucy Locket lost her pocket.'

27th November 2023, 03:46 PM	#9
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,205	The pistol in post 4 looks like its barrel has been cut of, at least the muzzle doesn't absolutely look as it should look normally!