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Old 11th October 2023, 02:27 PM   #1
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The only thing I've found, touted to be original that resembles the construction and condition from around the same period is this one.
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Old 11th October 2023, 04:34 PM   #2
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Here is another version with the same problematic rivets . For comparison something similar from Brooklyn Museum. Egypt 7 - 8 century.
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Old 11th October 2023, 09:05 PM   #3
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And here is an example dated from the 12th. century, attributed to a German crusader, fallen in the siege of Lisbon. No hinges in this one.


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Old 11th October 2023, 09:54 PM   #4
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Is the hinge brass? An image of the hinge from inside would be nice, just out of interest.
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Old 12th October 2023, 03:58 AM   #5
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The supposedly genuine similar example shown by Joel1475 has the cheek pieces pointing towards the neck guard?!! Definitely not suspicious at all, right?

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Old 12th October 2023, 01:33 PM   #6
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The supposedly genuine similar example shown by Joel1475 has the cheek pieces pointing towards the neck guard?!! Definitely not suspicious at all, right?

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I thought the same thing the first time I saw it but then it appears that the neck guard may be a brim.
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Old 13th October 2023, 11:32 AM   #7
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I thought the same thing the first time I saw it but then it appears that the neck guard may be a brim.
I think we can assume this was intended as a neck guard.
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Old 12th October 2023, 09:08 AM   #8
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The only thing I've found, touted to be original that resembles the construction and condition from around the same period is this one.
According to literature, the model is called a "spangen" helmet and they were already popular in Roman times. The photo shown here comes from the website below.

https://www.thecollector.com/ancient...aracteristics/

The hinges of the cheek plates still seem too modern to me, but I give them the benefit of doubt. What strikes me is the even thickness of the cheek plates. The parts of a helmet were hammered at the time, but these look so perfect, no hammer marks. They look cut out.
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According to literature, the model is called a "spangen" helmet and they were already popular in Roman times. The photo shown here comes from the website below.

https://www.thecollector.com/ancient...aracteristics/

The hinges of the cheek plates still seem too modern to me, but I give them the benefit of doubt. What strikes me is the even thickness of the cheek plates. The parts of a helmet were hammered at the time, but these look so perfect, no hammer marks. They look cut out.
Read the small print . 'Via Apollo Galleries' Now search Apollo Galleries reviews and scroll down to Reddit.
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Read the small print . 'Via Apollo Galleries' Now search Apollo Galleries reviews and scroll down to Reddit.
That pretty much guarantees the helmet’s a fake.
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