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Old 22nd March 2023, 11:33 AM   #1
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At some point the Ottoman cavalry started to adopt the koncerz. And Ottoman miniatures can provide a wealth of knowledge.
http://warfare.tk/Ottoman/Suleymanname/Suleymanname.htm
Here is an illustrations from the Süleymanname 1558 showing Ottoman Deli Sinan fighting against the Hungarian Eugene at the battle of Mohacs 1526. Notice the koncerz under the deli's left thigh.
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Another one from the same source shows a duel. Both combatants are equipped with koncerz' under their thighs.
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In both instances, the Ottoman's koncerz has an "8-guard".
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More details from thos one. Note, I think that 1572 is the correct date. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...&postcount=105
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Old 22nd March 2023, 11:57 AM   #3
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King Ferdinand I of Hungary => Nehóczy Boldizsár noble, Bálint Nehóczy noble | renewal of coat of arms 1560. https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/7283
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Helmets aren't perfect. János II elected Hungarian king => András Kotecz of Sajó | coat of arms 1560.
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Member of the elite "rabbit hussars" atop his powerful goat. Year of such calamity, 1582. Armed with lance and wide cross-guard sabre, king Bathory would have been proud to command such destructive potential. Just imagine David Attenborough's voice while reading this .
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King Rudolph of Hungary => Ferenc Győry | coat of arms, 1604. Horse with koncerz. https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/1006
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István Bocskai, Hungarian and Transylvanian prince => Miklós Segnyey of Lapispataki, captain of Kassa | coat of arms, 1606. Cavalry fight scenes with winged hussars. https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/5452
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