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Old 18th March 2023, 11:17 PM   #1
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pictures of several gaucho's from Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina with their facón / knives ( between 25-50cm / approx. 10 - 20 in.)
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Old 19th March 2023, 12:51 AM   #2
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Middle picture:
Looks like an old Iver Johnson top break revolver w/pearl grips on his belt.
Beautiful kit.

The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,.

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Old 19th March 2023, 08:51 PM   #3
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The three in the picture below him all look like they are carrying swords,.
it actually is a caronero; a long knife used by the gauchos.
But it looks that indeed other weapons like swords might have been borrowed...
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Old 19th March 2023, 09:05 PM   #4
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article called "PROMENADE A TRAVERS LA PAMPA GAUCHO" a walk through the gaucho's pampa from 1881

and how it looked like

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JDDX_z7tT10

and a little info on these long ones:

http://esgrimacriolla.blogspot.com/2...-caronero.html
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Old 21st March 2023, 09:51 AM   #5
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I'm not sure those blades are very true to reality. They look more like folding knives, such as navaja, than facón or cuchillo. This could just as well be a Mediterranean scene, despite the legend to the drawing. Popular travelogues from the nineteenth century generally took a lot of license with what they presented, and often times the stories were written by people who had not ventured very far from Europe.
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Old 22nd March 2023, 12:29 AM   #7
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I am also very sceptical of the "ice-pick" grip of the blades, which is rare in real life and specialised for a power strike or finishing move. As I understand it Gaucho fought for prestige and to settle disputes usually with a poncho or blanket wrapped round the left arm as a protection.
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