Late medieval swords from Southeastern Europe

[Teisani]

That last sword with gold wire wrap is even more interesting. Other than the wrap being reminiscent of later sabres, this one also has "sabre-like" scabbard fitting. Checkout these scabbards.
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The main altar at the church St. Johannes und St. Martin in Schwabach. Finished in 1508. Another example that these multi-fullered blades were quite widespread, local details being more in the hilt.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwabacher_Altar

[Teisani]

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-an...-19832752.html

[Teisani]

https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-...ert-645496344/
82cm blade

[Teisani]

Found it! Kirche St. Peter und Paul in Heinfels, Austria https://www.heinfels.at/kirche-st--peter---paul.html

However, only the building of a church by the Gorizia construction works around 1470/80 can be ascertained with certainty.

[Reventlov]

Originally Posted by Teisani

That last sword with gold wire wrap is even more interesting. Other than the wrap being reminiscent of later sabres, this one also has "sabre-like" scabbard fitting. Checkout these scabbards.

Yes, very similar! I am not very knowledgeable about sabers and post-medieval swords, so I didn't make this connection.

Originally Posted by Teisani

The main altar at the church St. Johannes und St. Martin in Schwabach. Finished in 1508. Another example that these multi-fullered blades were quite widespread, local details being more in the hilt.

I think this one is one is quite interesting because it also seems to show cuff-shaped rainguard, integrated into the hilt, like several of the Hungarian swords

Originally Posted by Teisani

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-an...-19832752.html

This one seems to have circulated through several auction houses, here is one instance: https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-50...ssummary&lid=1

Originally Posted by Teisani

https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-...ert-645496344/

This one I am more dubious about, some proportions of the hilt seem off to me...

[Reventlov]

To follow up on my earlier post on examples with Italian makers' marks, another important example is this one in Toronto, which I have seen in person. It was donated to the Mamluk armoury in Alexandria in 1436-37, giving a firm reference point for the earliest appearance of blades of this type.

[Teisani]

Hungarian King Ulaszló II grants Balázs Érki CoA. 1514 https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/3823

[Teisani]

King Ulászló II grants CoA, 1500. Single fuller, rain guard and X pattern on the handle. Very Germanic?
Opinions? https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/4103

[Teisani]

King Louis of Hungary grants CoA to Bernát Sapharych of Sywecz, György Sapharych of Sywecz, István Sapharych of Sywecz. 1517. What caught my eye was the gold wire wrap on his sword's hilt. It's very faint, so could be just confirmation bias.
https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/7337

[fernando]

Great images being posted here ... and info .

[Reventlov]

Originally Posted by Teisani

King Ulászló II grants CoA, 1500. Single fuller, rain guard and X pattern on the handle. Very Germanic?
Opinions? https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/4103

Certainly the features of the hilt are very typical in Germany and adjacent lands at this time. For comparison, a Swiss painting in the Met of approximately the same date.


https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/437770

Here is a contemporary painting, dated 1508 and by a Transylvanian artist, Vicentius of Hermannstadt (modern Sibiu). The S-shaped quillons are broad and probably grooved, as seen on these sabers posted earlier. The rainguard is the cuff-shaped type which seems to be relatively more common in the east.

[Teisani]

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...9&postcount=24
I was wondering about those sabre-like fittings on that sword scabbard from Hungary. Incidentally I found these two depictions:

Poganovo monastery in Serbia with frescos from 1499 done by greek artists: http://yt1r.weebly.com/page11.html




And these from Cozia monastery in Wallachia from 1542-43.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...&postcount=129

[Teisani]

This may be relevant to our discussion.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...&postcount=126

[LeonymusBosch]

Hey, here's 25 medieval swords from Croatia which were exhibited in Zagreb two years ago.

The exhibition catalogue of the swords is available (in a bit lower quality) to download if you follow the link and press the folder icon.

https://www.hismus.hr/media/tours/ma...avno/index.htm

Unfortunately, only the Croatian version is available for download online.


There's a couple of interesting Schiavonescas in there

[Reventlov]

Originally Posted by LeonymusBosch

Hey, here's 25 medieval swords from Croatia which were exhibited in Zagreb two years ago.

Thanks! Looks like it was a great exhibit. I've seen some of these in various publications, but not all in one place. Many interesting and archetypical features in their collection.

Actually the catalog does have the complete text in English after the Croatian text, so all the better for me!

[LeonymusBosch]

Oh yes, that's right!