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Old 13th January 2023, 08:48 PM   #1
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Maybe what we need here is to separate the waters, Jim; standardized military models (SIC) is one thing and ethnic handmade weapons incorporating an element assumed to improve their efficacy is another. Or even in some cases the blade is assembled to simbolize influence of outside cultures ... but in an ethnic manner, for internal interpretation.
This does not take place in industrial production lines. A nimcha, for one, is an ethnographic implement; if it goes now and then with an early European blade, is not such a crime to let it enter the door to the Ethnographic universe. Or, in another perspective, is not militaria stuff.
I look at my 'Mbele a Lulendo' sword.



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Maybe what we need here is to separate the waters, Jim; standardized military models (SIC) is one thing and ethnic handmade weapons incorporating an element assumed to improve their efficacy is another. Or even in some cases the blade is assembled to simbolize influence of outside cultures ... but in an ethnic manner, for internal interpretation.
This does not take place in industrial production lines. A nimcha, for one, is an ethnographic implement; if it goes now and then with an early European blade, is not such a crime to let it enter the door to the Ethnographic universe. Or, in another perspective, is not militaria stuff.
I look at my 'Mbele a Lulendo' sword.



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Well put Fernando, and this dilemma could not be better explained, thank you.

P.S. That Portuguese sword from the Congo is a outstanding example!
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Old 13th January 2023, 10:49 PM   #3
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The celebrated "anthropologist" Albert Einstein is said to have said"

"In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not".

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Old 16th January 2023, 03:45 PM   #4
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The celebrated "anthropologist" Albert Einstein is said to have said"

"In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not".

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In “The Yale Literary Magazine” of February 1882, which was written and edited by students, Benjamin Brewster, who was a member of the class of 1882, wrote about an argument he had engaged in with a philosophical friend about theory versus practice. His companion accused him of committing a vulgar error.
His response:
"I heard no more, for I was lost in self-reproach that I had been the victim of “vulgar error.” But afterwards, a kind of haunting doubt came over me. What does his lucid explanation amount to but this, that in theory there is no difference between theory and practice, while in practice there is?"

Einstein would have been 3 years old at the time.
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Old 16th January 2023, 04:00 PM   #5
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Everyone knows that good old Albert was a plagiarist .
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Old 16th January 2023, 09:17 PM   #6
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David & Fernando,

I initially thought that Yogi Berra was the sayer, but then additional searches
credited Albert. But then again...

"Pablo Picasso is widely quoted as having said that “good artists borrow, great artists steal.” Whether or not Picasso was truly the first person to voice this idea is in some dispute."

Even someone once claimed there is a dialectal relationship between Theory & Practice as practice informs how the theory may evolve/be improved/be developed based on the realities exposed via real world applications.

Still, I think we can all agree there is an elegance to the original rendition. :-)

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Everyone knows that good old Albert was a plagiarist .
LOL!
Frankly i think misattributions to the origins of quotes is more an artifact of social media than anything else. I don't think Einstein, if he did indeed ever say this, did so with the intention of claiming credit for the quote.
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Old 18th January 2023, 01:43 PM   #8
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I think the machete which originated this thread is mass-produced by Collins

I have had two from Guatemala with an almost Identical scabbard

Collins had several factories in any central and South American countries.

The hilt of the OP seems to be alder than the ones I had ( sorry no pictures) .

Collins generally have marks for Collins Legitimus mine wa similar to this

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