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5 - The great triumphal chariot, detail: The Hungarian trophy by Albrecht Dürer, 1518 original.
Detailed design for the woodcut sequence of imperial triumphal procession Maximilian I, printed in its entirety for the first time in 1526, Dürer was responsible for the design of the carriage with the marriage of Emperor Maximilian to Mary of Burgundy and published it in 1522 in eight sheets. Source: http://www.zeno.org/Kunstwerke/B/D%C...?hl=ungarische Not very detailed, but every source helps. |
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6 - Nikola IV Zrinski (Hungarian: Szigeti Zrínyi Miklós; 1508–1566), Ban of Croatia from 1542 until 1556.
Source: Leónidasz a végvidéken. Zrínyi Miklós (1508-1566) by Varga Szabolcs Note: I've posted this one before, but this one's in higher quality. Source: https://docplayer.hu/222752167-Tanul...-szablyak.html The sabre resides at the Museum of Fine Arts in Vienna (Kunsthistorisches Museum Wien), Austria. According to Prof. dr. Major General József Padányi, the likely year - with the dragon coat of arms of the Zrínyis on the grip caps - is 1563. At that time, Miklós Zrínyi was at the height of his power, and at the coronation of Maximilian II (King of Hungary September 8, 1563 - 12 October 1576), the saber could have been a gift from Zrínyi, who carried the state apple, as a souvenir. A painting was also made of this event, proving the above. The previous posted source dates the painting to 1541-42. So, it's a bit confusing. |
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7 - "Gothic" sabre (1470?-1520?) at the Magyar Nemzeti Múzeum Budapest
This is probably the oldest Hungarian sabre known. It also has the earliest depiction of a hussar, on the scabbard. Most likely originaly Ottoman sabre (from 1470-1500?), later (probably during the 1510s) its scabbard was modified to incorporate the hussar depiction. Another reason to classify this as Hungarian rather than Ottoman is the representation of Adam & Eve on the scabbard. So not much is known about this one. The best source of info on this one, I've found is "SZABLYÁK A KÉSŐ KÖZÉPKORI MAGYARORSZÁGON by KOVÁCS S. Tibor" https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/vi...g=270&layout=s There are a few other ottoman swords with similar hilts around the world (Turkey, Russia, and USA). Last edited by Teisani; 4th January 2023 at 06:28 PM. |
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8 - Szikszó sabre
Discovered in Szikszó, Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén county, Hungary. Currently resides at the Magyar Nemzeti Múzeum, Budapest. Can find no other info on it. https://sites.google.com/site/hagyom...zablya-szikszo |
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9 - Bebek György sabre
Bebek György (lived 1529-1567), became a prisoner of the Ottomans in 1562 but was released in 1565 from captivity and given this sabre by sultan Suleiman I the Magnificent. Quote:
Total Length: 94cm Blade width: 3.3cm Weight with scabbard: 2kg Source: https://www.szadvar.hu/2021/07/bebek-gyorgy-szablyaja/ |
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9 - Bebek György sabre (continued)
Personal opinion...Bebek's sabre seems to be a typical (my estimates 1540s to 1590s) boot hilt, with wire wrap, long quillons (about same length as the handle). Yet it was a gift from the Sultan. The question is whether: - the Sultan had craftsmen that could make Hungarian style hilts. - it was a looted by the Ottomans, later gifted to Bebek. - the sabre's original hilt and scabbard was changed later between the 1565 (release date) and 1567 (year of death). My opinion no likely but who knows. Really interesting... Bebek's sabre looks very, very similar to this sabre in Sultan Mehmed IV (1642 – 1693) portrait in 1682. I really wonder if this painting is authentic (no idea if yes or no), or why would the Sultan be wearing a Hungarian sabre, 100 years out of date. Really strange! Anybody else have any idea/opinions about this painting? Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed...med_IV_(2).jpg |
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10 - Knyaz (prince) Fyodor Mikhailovich Mstislavsky (? - 1540)
This one is a Muskovite sabre, reminescent a bit of some sabres depicted in the "Battle of Orsha" painting. On the blade's spine there is the incription "Сабля Князь Федора Михайловича Мстиславскаго/Saber of Prince Fyodor Mikhailovich Mstislavsky". The blade is made by "Abdul-Ali Qasim from Egypt". Looks like a typical Ottoman sabre of the era, except for the flat end-cap. Total length: 102cm --- Blade length: 86.36cm --- Blade width: 5.65cm (8cm at the yelman) --- Thickness: 0.8-1cm --- Quillon: 22cm --- Languettes: 10cm --- Weight with scabbard: 2.6kg https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мстисл...ич https://pikabu.ru/story/istinno_boga...vskogo_4919872 https://mayak-parnasa.livejournal.com/1227109.html Last edited by Teisani; 6th January 2023 at 02:51 PM. |
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hungary, ottoman, saber poland |
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