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1st December 2022, 02:23 AM | #1 |
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Unfortunately, I don't have any ivory hilted 1796 style sabres in my collection, but here are some examples I've previously come across on the web:
Probable Light Cavalry Officers frock (dress) sabre. Overall length 92cm blade length 78cm. 1796 Style sabre, this one is etched with cavalryman on the blade: Another like it with an 82.5cm blade: Another probable Frock sword with 71cm blade: Another, overall length is 93cm, the palm frond engraving on the grip is interesting as it's also seen on Hussar Mamelukes. A possible connection? Another, possible Yeomanry sabre with 83cm blade: As you can see, the type isn't that uncommon. Plus I've deliberately left out the ones with lions head pommels and embellished langets.... |
1st December 2022, 03:21 AM | #2 |
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As they say here in Texas, 'well,....there ya go!" !!
Stunning examples, and perfectly illustrating cavalry examples with ivory hilts. The one with the deeply curved blade, rifle company? |
1st December 2022, 03:48 AM | #3 |
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This is one of those grey areas. The steel scabbard would be more typical for a cavalry officer as it is harder wearing for when mounted. Leather is lighter and makes less noise when walking about. The blade is short at 71cm (28 inches), not suited to mounted combat. But I've seen dress swords with steel scabbards as well.
But then an officer that could afford an ivory-hilted sword is equally likely to be mounted regardless of service, it's anyone's guess really. Given that the British had only three (four?) Rifles Regiments in the regular army at the time, I would say on the balance of probabilities that it belonged to a Cavalry Officer. |
1st December 2022, 01:03 PM | #4 |
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So with that example with dramatic curved blade, then this one which is of course not with ivory grip etc, I have always thought was an officers, is likely cavalry ?
I got this back in those days trying to assemble M1796 anomalies, and it was actually included in an article by the Danish Arms & Armor Society on that topic over 20 years ago. I need to find that article in old notes. I had seen rifle company or flank company M1803 sabers with these kinds of dramatically curved blades so thought perhaps this was one of that category. I'd rather it was cavalry per my own fields of 'collecting' though. But again....who knows? What was interesting with this one is the pipe back on what is essentially a Persian 'shamshir' type blade. I know that when Osborn was considering options in developing the M1796, he was looking at various types of swords and features which included Indian tulwars and others according to some references. Also what I thought was odd, is the strangely canted hilt, a feature which brought to mind certain Caucasian sabers, to add to the 'exotic' features that seem to have been applied to the sabers of this period. In the latter 18th into 19th c. it seems there were a number of anomalous British cavalry swords, if I recall one had a yataghan type blade; and some (which I think were East India Company associated) had a blade with stepped point (yelman) as seen on Indian tulwars often. |
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