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15th May 2022, 04:00 PM | #1 | |
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That is a fabulous direct origin connection! The Okir on your piece and the corresponding wood lattices is a near prefect match. Do you know what building that picture was taken from and or the buildings rough age?? Thank you for sharing both the information you gathered from your Malay source and the detailed Okir pics! Very excited! At the same time I’m having a difficult time finding matching Okir or sculpture reference to the symbol on my kris. The number 8 is strongly represented in the three layers of the “flower”. I still have some leaning toward a connection back to Hindu/Buddhist roots on this symbol… but that a work in progress. |
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15th May 2022, 05:21 PM | #2 | |
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I'm attaching a picture from Baradas (1968) study on okir, there's a Maranao okir motif there that corresponds with the carving on our kris pommel. |
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15th May 2022, 05:43 PM | #3 |
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Tree of life
When inquiring about my copper alloy bladed Kris, one of our friends mentioned that the carving on the back of the hilt somewhat resembles the tree of life. He then forwarded a photo of a Tausug tapestry of the Tree of life that resides in the Philippine National Museum. Xas I wonder if carving on top of the hilt of your Kris could be interpreted as such. Would you classify your blade as hailing from Sulu?
Photo of the Tausug tapestry. |
15th May 2022, 07:04 PM | #4 | |
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16th May 2022, 05:45 PM | #5 | |
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Thank you so much for sharing the tapestry pic!! That’s a great reference piece. I would agree with Xasterix that his Okir is a direct match back to the royal line used as shown in the pics he shared. Which is an incredible find as to providence. I am excited by the sharing for resources and ideas. |
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17th May 2022, 04:10 AM | #6 | |
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17th May 2022, 07:05 AM | #7 |
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Here you go! Let me know if you uncover any interesting similarities with other Okir.
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19th May 2022, 01:15 AM | #8 |
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Here’s another hilt to throw in the mix.
Too bad a detailed image of the hilt is unavailable. |
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