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Old 7th September 2021, 11:16 AM   #1
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YS there are two basic types of pamor construction:-

pamor mlumah and pamor miring

in pamor mlumah the layers of pamor material lay in the same plane as the core of the blade

in pamor miring the layers of pamor material stand at more or less 90 degrees to the plane of the blade

pamor wos wutah is a mlumah pamor and it is the foundation for other pamors where the motif is created by surface manipulation of the pamor material

a billet of unmanipulated mlumah pamor material is also the foundation for pamor motifs that are created by twisting and pamor motifs that are created by bending

in my opinion the best information on how various motifs are created in pattern welding is in a knife makers book:- "The Pattern Welded Blade", the author was Jim Hrisoulas

when Pauzan Pusposukadgo was experimenting with creating pamor motifs he used plasticene to test how various forms of manipulation might produce various pamor motifs. This was in the late 1970's & early 1980's, at that time there was virtually nothing in print to help us, anybody trying to forge weld ferric material and nickel had to work it out for themselves.
Thank you Alan, I will try to get this Pattern Welded Blade.

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Old 8th September 2021, 01:05 AM   #2
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YS, it is likely to cost you.

BIG.

I bought my copy immediately it was published, forget when that was, but a long time ago.

Over the last few years I have seen it for sale at anywhere from $US25 to $US1500.

There are other books on pattern welding too, one i've heard of is by somebody called "Schiffer" which is supposedly the Duck's Guts of pattern welding, but i've never seen it.

There are other books too, like Figiel "On Damascus Steel", & Sasche "Damascus Steel" these are very informative books and will help enormously in understanding how pamor patterns are created.

I suggest that a read through this thread might be useful, maybe very useful:-

https://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/598...mascuspattern/
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Old 8th September 2021, 02:44 AM   #3
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YS, it is likely to cost you.

BIG.
I think the book is still in print. I just ordered a copy on that imfamous online mega-site that put a giant phallus in space. LOL!
Paperback edition is just $36 CAD.
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Old 8th September 2021, 02:49 AM   #4
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$36CAD sounds more than reasonable.

Some of the prices I've seen myself, and have had others tell me about are just purely crazy.
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Old 8th September 2021, 07:56 AM   #5
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I've also ordered this book, it cost me 45 USD.

I agreed with Alan the price range of this book is huge, I saw from 25 USD to 225USD I wonder why.

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I've also ordered this book, it cost me 45 USD.

I agreed with Alan the price range of this book is huge, I saw from 25 USD to 225USD I wonder why.

Cheers,
The book appears to have been reprinted in soft covers; that would account for the lower price. The earlier printing in hard covers should see a reduction in price as scarcity no longer drives the cost.

Just ordered a copy for $50 US. The softcovers seem to sell for around $17.
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