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15th April 2021, 09:29 PM | #1 |
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I think everyone can see that the HH gun and the one in the museum are not the same.
Fernando K, is the muzzle bored all the way through? |
16th April 2021, 11:10 AM | #2 |
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Two things bring my attention in this so called ship revolver.
- The weight; why would a gun of small dimensions weigh 3,850 grams ? This is the weighjt of some rifles. -The marks; would the double crowned U and the cylinder inscription be those for blanks, as the caption claims to be? Would the 2 gr stand for 2 grams of gunpowder ? . |
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The "U" under a crown is the German blackpowder proofmark used since 1891 until 1939. 2gNGP = 2g Neues Gewehr Pulver = New Gun Powder
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16th April 2021, 12:41 PM | #4 |
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Great info, Udo .
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2 grams is 31 grains. For reference, a 9 mm Luger round takes 5 grains of smokeless powder. I am still curious about this revolver. There are no sights on any of these examples. There appears to be no provision for mounting it on a stock or stabilizing it somehow. The trigger is for distance pulling. A possibility is a burglar alarm, triggered by opening of doors or windows. 20 discharges is a lot though, for any burglar alarm. If this was, as HH describes it, a gun for some kind of naval theatrics, it would've been designed to look like a cannon, not a giant revolver. |
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30th April 2021, 08:21 AM | #6 |
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If you look at the photo, there is behind de 2g NGP an M/71, so this was certainly not a nitro based powder but always still black powder. First nitro cartidges in Germany came in 1888 with the infantry rifle M/88.
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30th April 2021, 11:24 AM | #7 |
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This HH example has a cylinder for 12 capsules with a considerable caliber (over 14 mm).
Could it be that 2 gr stands for 2 grains and not 2 grams. In any case, if this gun was made to shoot blanks, the amount of powder would be (much) less than for shooting a projectile; notwithstanding it needed to be noisy for the show purpose. We ignore how these pistols were positioned in their niche; could be that they were introduced through some kind of orifice in that only the fairly long barrels stood out the boat hull, thus giving the impression of a cannon, as the HH caption seems to suggest. |
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Its probably safe to say that the trigger was pulled with a string. All examples have a loop at the bottom of the trigger for attachment. |
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One idea I have about this HH revolver is that it was used in a clock, and would fire a round on the hour mark. 12 chambers make sense in that context. 2 gr. meaning grains, not grams, briefly crossed my mind also, but I doubt that Germans measured the weight of their gunpowder in English terms. Last edited by Dmitry; 1st May 2021 at 07:43 PM. |
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1st May 2021, 06:57 PM | #10 |
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Dmitry, you have a new PM.
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