help with talismanic inscription

[psingh123]

Hello forum members!

I recently purchased a tulwar from the tirri collection! On the blade is an inscription. It does not seem to be a word or phrase but rather single letters, number or symbols? Is anyone able to translate this?

also, there seems to be a orange circle..does this signify anything?

thanks!

[Battara]

I think this inscription is upside down. I rotated it for you. What I see are Arabic numbers with possibly one exception at the beginning at the right side.

[psingh123]

Im not familiar with Arabic numerals but I seem to see the following: 2 6[?] 9 [with something else?] 3[?] and a 5. Seems to be a random set of numbers? But maybe linked to the first word on the right?

Any idea on what that might say?

[mariusgmioc]

Very beautiful example! Congratulations!

The blade may benefit from some cleaning.

I have no idea what the cartouche inscription says but it appears to intact.

[psingh123]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

Very beautiful example! Congratulations!

The blade may benefit from some cleaning.

I have no idea what the cartouche inscription says but it appears to intact.

thanks! Yes the inscription is proving quite troublesome to decipher.

[kwiatek]

Where in India do you think this is from? Might help with the inscription

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by kwiatek

Where in India do you think this is from? Might help with the inscription

I find this sword and the inscription very suspicious... Might explain the difficulties that you have to read it...

[psingh123]

Not too sure. In tirris book he does not say where it is from. Just says its a persian blade with a indian hilt. Dated 18th century

[psingh123]

Tirris does not say in his book. Only states that its 18th century, persian blade with indian hilt. Maybe its mughal but in terms of location, I am not too sure -

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by psingh123

Tirris does not say in his book. Only states that its 18th century, persian blade with indian hilt. Maybe its mughal but in terms of location, I am not too sure -

The blade too looks Indian to me because of the "Indian ricasso" but that may be resulted from repeated sharpening.

[Battara]

I would be careful of Tirri - his book has many many inaccuracies through out the book.

[Mickey the Finn]

ਸਤਿ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ.
Are you certain that the orange circle is not a rust spot, ਜ

[psingh123]

I dont think it is. Its very uniform. Looks almost deliberate

[psingh123]

Just an update. Been speaking to some experienced collectors. One pointed out an interesting fact. Said that the hilt is most likely of punjabi/lahore origin Based on its design. Maybe the blade was an import? Or off another sword and mounted on the hilt later?

[Victrix]

Originally Posted by psingh123

I dont think it is. Its very uniform. Looks almost deliberate

Could it be a chemical reaction to something inside the scabbard?

[kronckew]

All you ever wanted on Arabic numerals: Some of those characters you think are numbers, aren't.