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Old 3rd September 2020, 11:56 PM   #1
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in the Netherlands there is a big Mollucan community, most from the Southern Islands like (Ambon), but each with their own traditions and cultural variety

Hereby 3 examples from the Northern Islands being wardances :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEi2zZsxIlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umgOUzzQtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGMCfupIxg

Fierce not only by their looks but these men were fierce as warriors as well,
a picture of WW II and one from 1874 in Atjeh
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Old 7th September 2020, 04:55 PM   #2
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Scottish sword dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZCT8H-Hpbc

Georgian dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OsAsJejxJY

Korean sword dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJfefdr2Gc

Dance from Bougainville Island

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AEbo53SHo

Indonesian Barong dance (from 6:20)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5O8gnQh5Po

Aceh knife dance (final part of the clip)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvClxcLqxpc

And another (from around 29:30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcbwZaDVM0

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Old 9th September 2020, 08:37 AM   #3
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Dance for Ogun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W82tnya3cnk
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Old 29th September 2020, 12:30 AM   #4
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War Dance in Congo of the Ba Mongo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFT-TeUrP4

the Konda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koQ0ynPZQGA

and the Kuba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oStCNLZBjUM

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Old 3rd October 2020, 05:16 PM   #5
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Old 1st January 2021, 11:22 AM   #6
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native American war dance :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-stkMRVkCIU

another one in which the weapon ( axe) has similarities with the pre columbian axe from the Maya and Aztecs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA0bTp677gk

and 2 Cherokee war dances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEl-yJQvXaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJvrAPMEVlY

seems the Cherokee nation was very music talented as they had some great musicians amongst them like f.i. blues legends Charlie Patton and Champion Jack Dupree, Rickey Medlocke from Blackfoot and Lynyrd Skynyrd and last but not least James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix...
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Here is a clearer version of the same weapons dance from my Cherokee heritage (at the beginning of this):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNc5O7mug5E

Here is a kampilan dance from one side of my heritage in the Philippines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A

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Old 10th October 2021, 09:38 PM   #8
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in the Netherlands there is a big Mollucan community, most from the Southern Islands like (Ambon), but each with their own traditions and cultural variety

Hereby 3 examples from the Northern Islands being wardances :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEi2zZsxIlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umgOUzzQtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGMCfupIxg

Fierce not only by their looks but these men were fierce as warriors as well,
a picture of WW II and one from 1874 in Atjeh
although the Moluccans had a reputation as fierce fighters, so one ought to respect their women and they ought not to be ignored. Strongminded, tough and proud as well. Showing their status, position and heritage , this was displayed by their tattoos. Almost disappeared during the last century a revival can be seen in the Netherlands as some reallign, rediscover and identify again with their roots and culture. FYI: the manual tattooing with the little hammer is less painful as the modern machine used in the present day parlors...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63lrcH-hJU&t=38s
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Old 11th October 2021, 03:09 PM   #9
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Ainu sword dance
It takes some time for swords to take part

https://youtu.be/ynS955uVKqc


https://youtu.be/x9Lr4hVd7Ys


https://youtu.be/b8ECF5kpHe8
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Old 15th June 2022, 12:22 AM   #10
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courtesy to ariel who pointed me to a zeibek yataghan and the zeibek warriors.
Zeybeks, or sometimes Zeibeks /Greek: Ζεϊμπέκοι Zeibekoi; Ottoman Turkish: زیبك, romanized: zeybek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udRl7lsvtj0

by the way, the "eagle"movements are also to be found in the Caucasus peoples dance lezginka (Lezgisch: Лезги кьуьл; Russian: лезгинка; Azeri: Ləzgihəngi; Ossetian: тымбыл кафт, зилгæ кафт) where men stand for / symbolize the eagle and the women for the swan in their movements

FYI: at 2:03 min the 2nd dance starts and the title mentions "ince"which means hawk in Turkish
Clearly can also be recognized by the swift flying movements ( of a hawk) which differ from an eagle's

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Old 13th July 2022, 12:05 AM   #11
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courtesey to Ren Ren who wrote "In particular, the knife, persistently referred to as "surmene", is called the "circumpontian knife" (циркумпонтийский нож). This term is derived from the Greek word "Pont" (short for "Pont Euxin" - the Black Sea) and the Latin "circum" - around."

I stumbled again... upon something interesting and adding to the complexity of the Laz(istan) discussion.....this dance :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM45-Ao82zg

now the dance's name "horon" originates from the Greek language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horon_(dance)

and here "Pontus"is mentioned...with reference to the above

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontus_(region)

which takes us again to Lazistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazistan
and its people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laz_people

and takes us to another dance....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBHKwy52bA
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Old 16th July 2022, 07:31 PM   #12
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Ladakh sword dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCoiRMWbXM

Tibetan sword dance
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10150393652589971
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